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    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    Dec 2020
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    Gridania
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    Rinh Neftereh
    World
    Excalibur
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raelsar View Post
    How can I put this nicely?

    This sort of attitude tells me one VERY clear thing -- this is the attitude and type of behaviour that indicates someone isn't the sort of player I wouldn't enjoy playing with.
    Not because I want to be carried, be lazy, or anything like that... no, this just tells me that I'd be dealing with a generally unpleasant sort of person to be around.

    From this perspective, a parser is more often than not just a tool to enable these attitudes and behaviours. As I said before, the potential for harm greatly outweighs the potential benefits.
    I'd rather deal with (and if necessary, help out) players who are struggling or inefficient than deal with a highly effective and efficient *ahem* "unpleasant individual".
    I mean, good for you? I always give tips to new players when I end up in a low level dungeons and I see them struggling or explain the mechanics if someone is asking for it, but if you think I'm a tryhard elitist harda** on sprouts because I argue for people to play their class decently well? go off, I guess?
    If you think that me wanting someone who has spent several tens (hundreds?) of hours playing to play their class in higher level dungeons/trials/raids well: what exactly is wrong with that? they've invested a lot of time into the game already and should've have a rudimentary grasp on the underlying mechanics at least, so wanting them to actually put their knowledge to proper use is wrong?

    lanada said it well: it could serve as a wake up call to players who think they're doing well - to make them actually do well; it could serve as a reality check for toxic players who think they're god's greatest gift to earth when they were in fact doing less damage than both healers who's giving everyone crap
    but I digress: I'm probably one of the nicest players you'd meet in game , I just want people to try to be as good as they can!

    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    Easier for what? Proof of what?
    accountability for toxic players who run their mouth about how player X or Y were doing so badly and how they themselves were the sole reason everything was fine, when in fact they did the least damage out of everyone - or a healer who complains and whines about having to solo heal when they're using they're overhealing everyone, never dps and use cure 2 and co on cooldown instead of lilies while their co-healer does use lilies or ogcd's, barely overheals and does a good amount of dps
    with one, the unwarranted and toxic self-importance of those two examples about their 'great' performance would vanish immediately because there'd be undeniable proof that they're just plain wrong

    note how I didn't mention that other players should call them out on it; I do think players like this would sing a different song if they'd see that they aren't playing as great as they think they do - and I'm all for warning and subsequently banning people should they use the (hypothetical official) parser to shame others

    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    If you truly believe this, then you didn't understand the other side at all.
    sorry, but have you read earlier posts in the thread? multiple posters were defending players who actively don't use their abilities for various reasons and that people should just accept it - and allow them to grief others because 'this is what you get when you use the DF'

    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    Then again, it's no wonder when you have statements like this:
    please don't mistake me for sturm, we may share some viewpoints at times and our cats look similar, but we're wholly different moonies (though when we had the same haircut I was confused at times as well!)
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    Last edited by Rinhi; 05-30-2021 at 08:31 AM.