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  1. #11
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    Infindox's Avatar
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    I was starting to wonder if anyone else came to the same conclusion. Once I finished getting my weapon items from the skimishes/CEs I really found no reason to interact with anything other than the Dalriada and even then other methods are probably way more efficient than waiting around for that to happen.
    I mean there is a reason to grind mettle using the skirmishes and CEs if Dalriada isn't up; especially in zone 3 each gold is about 200-300k and with how fast they go, you can easily grind out what you need on those alone, not to mention what CEs give. Good way to waste time in Zadnor while you wait for Dalriada to pop up.
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  2. #12
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    Astrid Arkwright
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    Brynhildr
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    I mean there is a reason to grind mettle using the skirmishes and CEs if Dalriada isn't up; especially in zone 3 each gold is about 200-300k and with how fast they go, you can easily grind out what you need on those alone, not to mention what CEs give. Good way to waste time in Zadnor while you wait for Dalriada to pop up.
    Alternatively I could just watch Netflix while I wait for the CE pop sound

    Also, what reason? You can't take the damage out of this specific content and I can already clear DR and Dalriada without it soooo it's just grinding for the sake of grinding as far as I'm concerned.
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    Last edited by hobostew; 05-29-2021 at 05:18 AM.

  3. #13
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    So how much of a buff are these things anyways? I was hoping it would actually be something insane like Yoshi-P said, but it sounds like they are easy enough to get that it probably isn't that great....
    5% for each Sun you have. For context 10 of each (+50%) is about the difference between i430 and i500. This is also then multiplied by Essences.

    A 10/10/10 healer using a Deep Essence of the Templar has 231% the hp and deals 258% the damage of a basic i430.
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  4. #14
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    Delritha Hinagora
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    Behemoth
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Fortitude gives about 4.5% HP per stack based on my personal calculations. Next time I get Fortitude I'll look more at the Vitality stat to be sure it is buffing that instead of straight HP.
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    Pray Return
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    Faerie
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    I mean there is a reason to grind mettle using the skirmishes and CEs if Dalriada isn't up; especially in zone 3 each gold is about 200-300k and with how fast they go, you can easily grind out what you need on those alone, not to mention what CEs give. Good way to waste time in Zadnor while you wait for Dalriada to pop up.
    Depends on if you’re going for 10/10/10 for valor/fortitude/succor. It costs 200 million mettle to get each of them to level 10, so that’s 600 million to max out all three. That’s going to amount to many, many hours in Zadnor. (Of course, I’ve already seen people with at least one of their stats at 10 stacks as well as people with the Gunhildr’s Blade title, and it hasn’t even been a week yet, so I guess it’s not *that* bad, but still...)
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  6. #16
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    These work in drs yeah? If so guess that a way to get your clear if you haven't already, should make it a tad easier
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  7. #17
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    Delritha Hinagora
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    These work in drs yeah? If so guess that a way to get your clear if you haven't already, should make it a tad easier
    It works in DR normal so I don't see why it would not work in savage.
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  8. #18
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Title.

    If you're going to set a minimum, make it 10 Million. Otherwise, let me buy them when I feel like it.
    it take same amount of time anyway even if you could buy one mettle at a time
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  9. #19
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    it take same amount of time anyway even if you could buy one mettle at a time
    I have 2 points in Damage since I finished the Bozja Story. Every point after that is faster kill times. It shortens the time until the next point linearly.

    If it takes 7 hours to get to 20 million mettle, if I was allowed to buy a point when it was available instead of having to buy 3 at a time I could shorten that time considerably. I wouldn't have to wait.

    The first point might take 2.5 hours. The next point might take 2.25 hours, then 2 hours. etc etc.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  10. #20
    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DoH View Post
    Depends on if you’re going for 10/10/10 for valor/fortitude/succor. It costs 200 million mettle to get each of them to level 10, so that’s 600 million to max out all three. That’s going to amount to many, many hours in Zadnor. (Of course, I’ve already seen people with at least one of their stats at 10 stacks as well as people with the Gunhildr’s Blade title, and it hasn’t even been a week yet, so I guess it’s not *that* bad, but still...)
    those people are no-lifing just constantly running Dalriada probably hating their life. they'll burn out and quit and never come back.
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