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  1. #21
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    Oneiron Fuchs
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    to be honest i had a rather toxic friend, who thought he was jailed because of a „bad“ word and he vented how hilariously stupid the system is. but in reality he was just a dead toxic person, but he thought to be just a „direct“ person. it‘s two different things to be „direct“ and give suggestions how to improve or just being a jerk about stuff.
    just a tip, behave in game with others/strangers as you would in real life and you won‘t have any problems. some people just seem to think anonymity gives them all the rights to behave in certain ways.

    i‘m not applying these things to you OP, but just as a reminder - there is mostly a more serious reason for jail time than some people make it out to be.
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  2. #22
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    Mimi Peach
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    Quote Originally Posted by NepKo View Post
    I guess I’ll just stop talking in dungeons entirely and quit doing leveling dungeons with new players as healer. Don’t feel like helping people if the reward is jail time after some snowflake gets offended.
    Or just don't say cringe things to strangers and play the game like everyone else?? With this attitude of yours, no wonder you're in jail.
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  3. #23
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Quote Originally Posted by NepKo View Post
    So everyone has to adjust for your daughter’s sake? Maybe you could do actual parenting instead of letting your daughter play a game that has murder and rape in the story alone? I also didn’t know irl rules apply to a fantasy game.....
    Yes, everyone is expected to adjust reasonably to what is accepted by the games rating (which is teen, btw), or risk trouble, especially when amongst strangers in a public setting.

    You DO know what the ToS is? “Irl rules that apply to a fantasy game”..right?

    You can’t shout profanity at a baseball stadium, or be crazy drunk at a restaurant without risk of getting thrown out, this is no different.

    By your very abrasive reaction here, I can begin to guess why you might have gone to jail. When you rub people the wrong way don’t get mad when they report you over petty things. You agreed to the rules, you broke them, you deal with the consequences of that.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 05-28-2021 at 06:10 PM.

  4. #24
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin- View Post
    Community shows its true colors when people get reported by such minor "bad" words
    Considering that could also easily be a typo, I suspect there's more to the story than the OP is letting on.
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  5. #25
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Quote Originally Posted by NepKo View Post
    ...letting your daughter play a game that has murder and rape in the story alone?
    Also to point out, there is a huge difference in a teen watching a story/movie/game that presents adult themes like murder, rape, alcohol or smoking in a tasteful teen-appropriate manner and, say, letting the kid watch straight up porn or worse role playing it out on their own with strangers.

    There is a reason alcohol/smoking is enjoyed by certain NPCs but as a consumable in game for our characters, it simply doesn't exist.
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  6. #26
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    Nyarlha Moonstalker
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    ESRB ratings for online games deliberately says : "Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB"

    So the whole "it's rated TEEN, people shouldn't say bad words" is completely moot.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    ESRB ratings for online games deliberately says : "Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB"

    So the whole "it's rated TEEN, people shouldn't say bad words" is completely moot.
    That is only to make SE the ESRB not legally responsible for foul language by players, not a free pass to use said foul language.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 05-28-2021 at 06:43 PM.

  8. #28
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    ESRB ratings for online games deliberately says : "Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB"

    So the whole "it's rated TEEN, people shouldn't say bad words" is completely moot.
    No, its not.

    This seems to be a common missunderstanding - the whole "Online interactions not rated by the ESRB"-thing does not mean that you can behave however you want. Its simply a "disclaimer" to protect the ESRB so that parents cant blame (or even sue) them if their child ends up in creepy or just inapproriate online interactions.

    I know its gotten "meme-status" by now, but to quote from the ToS that you agreed to when you first started playing this game:
    3.3 Profanity and Offensive Language. You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly.
    So, even though the ESRB cant rate online interactions, SE makes it very clear in their ToS that they want all online interactions to be "teen-friendly". Probably because they made sure that their game would be rated "teen" by the ESRB (and similar organisations in other countries) so that they would have a larger customer/playerbase. If you dont behave accordingly, you're out - thats the deal, thats what you agreed to.

    So, despite the online interactions not been rated by the ESRB, I'd say parents can have the reasonable expectation that the game - including online interactions - is going to be alright for their teens to play. And we should all play it with the expecations that teens are around - and that we'll get punished if we dont behave accordingly, since thats what we agreed to before we even set foot into Eorzea.

    People really need to understand that and stop arguing that just because "Online interactions not rated by the ESRB" they dont need to behave like their are potentially minors around.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    That is only to make SE not legally responsible for foul language by players, not a free pass to use said foul language.
    Nah, its not to protect SE, its to protect the ESRB.

    SE is protected by the ToS.
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    Last edited by Vidu; 05-28-2021 at 06:44 PM.

  9. #29
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Nah, its not to protect SE, its to protect the ESRB.

    SE is protected by the ToS.
    Derp, you’re right .
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    Last edited by kaynide; 05-28-2021 at 06:48 PM.

  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by NepKo View Post
    So everyone has to adjust for your daughter’s sake? Maybe you could do actual parenting instead of letting your daughter play a game that has murder and rape in the story alone? I also didn’t know irl rules apply to a fantasy game.....
    The fact you can’t see the difference between murder and rape in a story and an actual human being saying it to another is quite worrying. There’s murder in The Lion King. Doesn’t mean a grown adult should be encouraging 5 year olds to trample each other to death.
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