What classes could share gear with ninja?

[Raikai]

Coming to think about it... What exactly diferentiates the Scouting from the Aiming items? It can't be stat allocation because everyone goes for Crit>Det=DH. No wonder why the accessories are shared to begin with.

I wonder if wouldn't be something feasible to just merge the two of them into a same category.

And on the plus side, NIN, DNC, BRD and MCH would also benefit cosmetically from a slightly broader glam range.

[EdwinLi]

Coming to think about it... What exactly diferentiates the Scouting from the Aiming items? It can't be stat allocation because everyone goes for Crit>Det=DH. No wonder why the accessories are shared to begin with.

I wonder if wouldn't be something feasible to just merge the two of them into a same category.

And on the plus side, NIN, DNC, BRD and MCH would also benefit cosmetically from a slightly broader glam range.

Only thing that distinguish them from each other is the use of DEX stats being Scouting is for DEX Melee Jobs and Aiming is for DEX Range Jobs

Creating a 2nd Scouting Job will mean that the Job will have to be a melee DPS Job.

[Raikai]

Only thing that distinguish them from each other is the use of DEX stats being Scouting is for DEX Melee Jobs and Aiming is for DEX Range Jobs

Creating a 2nd Scouting Job will mean that the Job will have to be a melee DPS Job.

I still don't understand in practice what is the output difference, it's all physical damage in the end that comes from the same stat. It would be certainly less of a concern "Oh we must create another scouting job just to have something together with NIN". Also if they would really go for balance with the next DPS job added, it would have to go to either Aiming or Casting, as melee physical got already 5 jobs... Which would leave, once more, NIN as the sole owner of Scouting.

[PangTong]

I would really love to see Mystic/Mystic Knight as the second Scouting DPS job. In FFV they wear turbans and veils and cloth-like armour which I think meshes well with what Scouting sets tend to look like. Here's some fanart of Bartz from FFV as Mystic Knight: https://i.imgur.com/8n3Ilkk.jpg

As for a weapon, give them a whip-sword or something, which I think both stands out from existing weapons and makes sense as a dexterity-based weapon, since Scouting/Aiming jobs have Dexterity as their primary stat.

I still don't understand in practice what is the output difference, it's all physical damage in the end that comes from the same stat. It would be certainly less of a concern "Oh we must create another scouting job just to have something together with NIN". Also if they would really go for balance with the next DPS job added, it would have to go to either Aiming or Casting, as melee physical got already 5 jobs... Which would leave, once more, NIN as the sole owner of Scouting.

If you want to get technical, there's no real need for special distinction of gear between any roles except maybe Tank since it has more armour and vitality. All the other primary stats do basically the same thing which is make your abilities stronger, so you could theoretically merge them into one stat and then have nearly all roles use the same gear. The reason they're split up is basically just for flavour and variety, more types of gear, more gear appearances, different players don't look so much the same. That's pretty much it really.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Coming to think about it... What exactly diferentiates the Scouting from the Aiming items?

Aesthetics. Scouting gear for the most part varies between light armor and tighter clothing while Aiming gear tends to have more flowing clothing and long jackets.

And on the plus side, NIN, DNC, BRD and MCH would also benefit cosmetically from a slightly broader glam range.

Not really. The glam variety might increase but the glam suitability for each job would drastically decrease.

[Raikai]

Not really. The glam variety might increase but the glam suitability for each job would drastically decrease.

Taking in consideration that the Scouting set is almost always uses the same model of Striking in a different color, and sometimes Aiming, I can't see that argument holding up. At best, one could think that they should be merged with Striking, for aesthetic reasons, but then there's the different stat. The only times Ninjas actually get gear modeled after their "suitability" is when they get Artifact gear.

[ForteNightshade]

Taking in consideration that the Scouting set is almost always uses the same model of Striking in a different color, and sometimes Aiming, I can't see that argument holding up. At best, one could think that they should be merged with Striking, for aesthetic reasons, but then there's the different stat. The only times Ninjas actually get gear modeled after their "suitability" is when they get Artifact gear.

I'll go one better. For the Eden Gate raid series, Ninja shared its set design with Casters while Striking and Healing were identical. The dev team doesn't give a hoot about aesthetic consistency.

Ninja should be converted back into a STR job and paired off with the Striking set. If they don't want to do back to back Maiming DPS, move Samurai over. Either way, it's ridiculous how melee players can't gear within their own role the way every other role can.

[Ultimatecalibur]

I'll go one better. For the Eden Gate raid series, Ninja shared its set design with Casters while Striking and Healing were identical. The dev team doesn't give a hoot about aesthetic consistency.

The theme of the Edengate/Edengrace gear was "angelic" which doesn't really suit casters nor ninjas. Also they design gear sets to share components and then distribute those components among the gear sets. Look at all of the 5.X Tomestone/Raid Scouting gear:

• Deepshadow - Head shared with Healers/Casters, Unique model body that is a lighter variation of Striking, Feet, Legs and Hands shared with Striking
• Edengate/grace - White version of the Casting gear
• Crystarium - Unique Head, Hands shared with Striking/Aiming, Body, Legs and Feet shared with Aiming
• Edencall/choir - Head shared with Striking (with an eye-patch over Healing), Body shared with Maiming, Hands shared with Striking and Maiming, Legs shared with Fending and Maiming, Feet shared with Striking.
• Cryptlurker - Head shared with Striking and Casting, Body, Legs and feet shared with Striking and Aiming, Hands shared with Striking
• Edenmete/morn - Shared with Striking.

Ninja actually gains a lot out of the devs ability to recombine sets that would be lost by just making them wear Aiming sets.

[Seraphor]

I'll go one better. For the Eden Gate raid series, Ninja shared its set design with Casters while Striking and Healing were identical. The dev team doesn't give a hoot about aesthetic consistency.

Ninja should be converted back into a STR job and paired off with the Striking set. If they don't want to do back to back Maiming DPS, move Samurai over. Either way, it's ridiculous how melee players can't gear within their own role the way every other role can.

Please don't. I love that I can half-gear both NIN and MCH at the same time. I generally only play one job per role and I'm sure a lot are the same.

[Liam_Harper]

Aesthetics. Scouting gear for the most part varies between light armor and tighter clothing while Aiming gear tends to have more flowing clothing and long jackets.

Perhaps it would be possible to merge more gear types together, but have it change appearance depending on the job, similar to how the same piece of gear can look different on each gender. That way a Dex top could be equipped on both NIN and DNC, but would have a much different appearance on each job.

They could even look at expanding the system used for pre-order earrings, where they change main/secondary stats depending on the job that equips them, allowing jobs with different main stats to equip them same item. It would save a lot of armory space.