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    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    That is the thing at least from my from my view if you are part of the group your performance by default should be open to criticism. I find having data to back up claims when it comes to talking about ones performance is extremely helpful and helps keep the discourse honest and transparent. Though I do understand why some would be against such a thing or view it as a means of being intolerant.

    As you said sure this game does have a large insecure base I will grant that. Though I will say by in large that insecurity is based around this fear of being held accountable by a group standard. Though I get nothing can or will be done and this is why I just silently remove such people from my groups. In truth I wish I could be more transparent and say you were removed for x y and a but sadly that is not the case.

    Though I will grant it would be a disaster towards those that wish to hide fly under the radar or hide behind the thin vale of well the content was cleared.

    In truth you do not know how many times I have dps ask me why I do not give them cards as an ast and Instead give majority to the tank. I wish I could say well the tank is doing more damage. Though alas they will live in the blissful ignorance that they just ran into a scrub healer that did not know how to play.
    It seems like you just want to be able to call people out in situations where it isn't really needed or wanted. That's honest of you, but it's also being contentious purely for the sake of being contentious; and that's a little petty. It's something that I feel you want to do mainly to make yourself feel better, but you try to convince yourself that it's all in the name of 'transparent discourse.'

    People becoming confrontational with new or casual players just to appease their own frustrations, or stroke their egos, is exactly why SE won't allow parsers, though. The fact that you feel the need to gratify yourself at their expense is kind of why I agree with SE's position, despite the fact that I do enjoy parsers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    It seems like you just want to be able to call people out in situations where it isn't really needed or wanted. That's honest of you, but it's also being contentious purely for the sake of being contentious; and that's a little petty. It's something that I feel you want to do mainly to make yourself feel better, but you try to convince yourself that it's all in the name of 'transparent discourse.'

    People becoming confrontational with new or casual players just to appease their own frustrations, or stroke their egos, is exactly why SE won't allow parsers, though. The fact that you feel the need to gratify yourself at their expense is kind of why I agree with SE's position, despite the fact that I do enjoy parsers.
    Please understand it has nothing with wanting to make myself feel better, it is not an aspect of validation I seek. By in large this why for the most part I generally queue with friends or people I know. Since I often just view random strangers as nothing more then NPCs that happen to be slightly better on average then trusts.

    As said I know full well this will not happen and I already have my own means ingame to deal with such things I find to be an inconvenience. I am an extremely black and white person I personally rather know where I stand with someone and I also like to give people a clear cut reason as to why I do something at the very least when possible.

    I generally just do not like playing with people that play appear to not be trying for whatever reason it may be. Though that point aside I do understand how my silent kicks also do not do much to alleviate the problems I have with the current skill level of the game on average. This is why I would love to be able to show people in game where they are going wrong with numbers. In short as many have said in other threads I should treat people as I would like to be treated and this is how I would like to be treated that if removed I would love to know the reason why. Just like if someone does not like me or something I do wish to know the reason sure I cannot change it but still I do like that level of transparency when it comes to people. I get this is different by most people standards since many operate on have nothing nice to say do not say anything at all. Me I rather hear the not so nice things then have the person bottle it up. This is why irl I tell people exactly how I feel about them, in game I no longer do that cause I already have a strike on my account for such level of honestly.

    Here is the other thing I feel when it comes to needs or wants it is all subjective. Sure do I need to try and remove the small pull tank? Nah, hell it probably would be faster to just stick it out then to remove them. Though for me I find small pulls boring as shit so if I run into a tank that does it I will try to remove them at the 5 min mark and if it passes cool, if it does not then I have a call to make stay or leave. More often in the rare occasion they do not pass I just leave. Though I am also not happy I have to hide behind such a loophole and wish I could just be forthright though I value my own account over staying consistent with my own value system. Sure you may feel it is about making myself feel better though for lack of better words I really do not care what a stranger thinks that I place slightly above a trust. This is also why I do not feel what people should not feel the action of being removed is a personal one cause I know when I remove someone it is often just a product of me not wanting to deal with whatever trait that stranger may have. So taking it personally is silly since it just allows the person to live rent free when in the grand scheme to do think the ones that did the removal or said the hurtful thing forgot about the person or only mention the person as a passing joke.

    Though yes I do wish I could provide data to back up my stance for removing someone.

    Do not get me wrong I do understand where SE comes from I do not agree with it but I do get from the sense of fostering a healthy community my stance is not productive to that ends in this community or this era of gamers.
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    Last edited by Awha; 05-26-2021 at 12:29 PM.