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  1. #11
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    Dal S'ta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Only way to learn what you can stand in and not is to stand in it and see what happens. Do not worry I can assure you for the most part it will not cause issues and I say this as a healer. Stand in that AoE push your limits!
    I'm pretty sure the telegraphs are there to keep you from being damaged. I'm pretty sure that at least two of the seven DPS 'battle runs' in the Hall of the Novice try to drive that into every player's memory. "Orange on the ground = bad".

    I'd also like to point out to tanks - tank stance is there to aggro the mob(s) as well as your no-cost-to-you AoE. There are several lessons in the Hall of the Novice that try to drive that into every player's memory.

    About the only thing the Hall doesn't teach a tank: "Stop moving while the boss is up. It means the DPS will do less damage, and they'll all die if the boss throws a tank buster that only you, the tank, can survive when you dance it's attack straight into the DPS faces."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    I'm pretty sure the telegraphs are there to keep you from being damaged. I'm pretty sure that at least two of the seven DPS 'battle runs' in the Hall of the Novice try to drive that into every player's memory. "Orange on the ground = bad".

    I'd also like to point out to tanks - tank stance is there to aggro the mob(s) as well as your no-cost-to-you AoE. There are several lessons in the Hall of the Novice that try to drive that into every player's memory.

    About the only thing the Hall doesn't teach a tank: "Stop moving while the boss is up. It means the DPS will do less damage, and they'll all die if the boss throws a tank buster that only you, the tank, can survive when you dance it's attack straight into the DPS faces."
    By standing I mean only way to know if an AoE will outright kill ya is by standing in it. Though for the most part AoE's generally do not kill ya outright.

    In short people have very few reasons to not eat an AoE.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    I'm pretty sure the telegraphs are there to keep you from being damaged. I'm pretty sure that at least two of the seven DPS 'battle runs' in the Hall of the Novice try to drive that into every player's memory. "Orange on the ground = bad".

    I'd also like to point out to tanks - tank stance is there to aggro the mob(s) as well as your no-cost-to-you AoE. There are several lessons in the Hall of the Novice that try to drive that into every player's memory.

    About the only thing the Hall doesn't teach a tank: "Stop moving while the boss is up. It means the DPS will do less damage, and they'll all die if the boss throws a tank buster that only you, the tank, can survive when you dance it's attack straight into the DPS faces."
    Its funny cause people who promote just stand in AOE's are the same people who cry the loudest when people die to them in later content.
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    Note: Taking advice from a players alt, is like taking advice from a voice in a dark room. Criticism is a two way street remember that!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Its funny cause people who promote just stand in AOE's are the same people who cry the loudest when people die to them in later content.
    Generally I really only get upset if it is something I cannot personally save them from as a healer. Though if I can heal through it I rather people do not move, and the very least it gives me something to do besides spam glare.
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  5. #15
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    Esther Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Its funny cause people who promote just stand in AOE's are the same people who cry the loudest when people die to them in later content.
    And you know that... how?
    The people advocating to eat aoes so far explicitly stated that you can as long as you know your limits and don't force other people to adjust for it - which means dying to them beyond one "for science" try is not knowing your limits and being lazy.
    Escpecially in experts it's pretty common to have casters stand in aoes instead of interrupting their casts for something that only hits for 10%. It's all about knowing your limits. But if you find someone that says "someone died to an aoe after I told them to stay in it, how dare they??"... by all means, show me.
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    J'uzo Okita
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    You don't pay my sub, i can play the way i want. There's nothing wrong in playing at my own pace. It's not fair to ask to others to be better when you are already good at the game. If you are not happy you can leave.
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  7. #17
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    I'd have to say asking people to get better, across any MMO is probably the most tone-deaf, futile, and surprisingly naïve thing to expect will result in any kind of change. In the last decade... or the next decade.

    Haha, poor poor OP.
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    Lala Felon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    To those of you who are new,
    Please do not just stand there ignoring aoes while you thwap the boss.
    A dead boss does less damage. A BLM (for example) who has learnt which AOEs can be eaten and stays rooted in place is generally going to do a lot more damage than a holy-bot who could be throwing them the occasional heals/shields.
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    Thea Sitori
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    My experience lately is they run away from me when stacking the red marker together, or the usual run away with the stack marker. Never fails. If anything adds a little comedy when they die or turn to a frog alone.
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    By standing I mean only way to know if an AoE will outright kill ya is by standing in it. Though for the most part AoE's generally do not kill ya outright.

    In short people have very few reasons to not eat an AoE.
    Yeah. It takes a little bit of experience, knowing the fights, gear, etc. you can't eat everything, but there are quite a few you can actively eat for more uptime.
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