[Critical] Male Viera height slider; tall option. Show your support.

[Amnmaat]

...Aside from Hrothgar, everything is partly human in appearance. lol And even they share some qualities.

Of course! Even Ravana is partly human.
But let's not kid ourselves, there's degrees to traditional (real life) human/non-human characteristics

[HollowedDoll]

Male Viera seem to be visually very similar to females, with androgynous faces and relatively thin bodies, and especially since their sex isn't supposed to be obvious until fairly late in life.
It seems to me that they ought to be exactly the same height range. That's what I'd prefer anyways, no height or size deviation between females and males at all.

Please read again, age 20 refers to when their apparent age stops changing, puberty still happens at 13 as said in Stormblood.
( Even if it wasn't they live hundreds of years that's anything but fairly late )

[Vahlnir]

Of course! Even Ravana is partly human.
But let's not kid ourselves, there's degrees to traditional (real life) human/non-human characteristics

But your argument is that there isn't any tall races with human like appearances. Even a quick glance at this screenshot you just posted proves that is false.

[Amnmaat]

But your argument is that there isn't any tall races with human like appearances.

If you're going to quote me quot me correctly

Of course! Even Ravana is partly human.
But let's not kid ourselves, there's degrees to traditional (real life) human/non-human characteristics

My argument is my argument and it's completely different from what you're stating I said. Ravana and Ifrit traditionally human by your standards

Even a quick glance at this screenshot you just posted proves that is false.

A quick glance proves my point; skewed to non-human characteristics on the tall side, skewed to human characteristics on the short side.

[Vahlnir]

If you're going to quote me quot me correctly

Oh, I did. But I know how this goes.

[Amnmaat]

If you're going to discuss present the quote as is without lying about what the person said

Oh, I did. But I know how this goes.

Translation: He didn't let me misinterpret what he said so I have no other recourse than to reply without any substance.

[Vahlnir]

If you're going to discuss present the quote as is without lying about what the person said

Translation: He didn't let me misinterpret what he said so I have no other recourse than to reply without any substance.

Yep, this is exactly how this goes. If nothing else you're predictable.

[Amnmaat]

Yep, this is exactly how this goes. If nothing else you're predictable.

The irony, when you run out of any valid points as it pertains to the topic at hand you go straight to ad hominem. I wonder when the name calling comes.


I'll bring it back on topic
When tall, the choices are as far away from traditional human as a Japanese rpg allows

[Roda]

The irony, when you run out of any valid points as it pertains to the topic at hand you go straight to ad hominem. I wonder when the name calling comes.

We've had ad hominem for a while now.

I know there's a lot of RP'rs around or people who want to fetishize being taller than the males but the game isn't played solely by RPrs. A lot of us just want the option to make characters that look like ourselves; on the tall side it's very hard to do that.

just because you can't even fathom why someone would want something different than you, we all have to be sex pests right?

I'll bring it back on topic
When tall, the choices are as far away from traditional human as a Japanese rpg allows

You keep saying they're not human like, and I say your view on "human-like" is distorted
Tall characters have a wide range of options from a stylized bulky roe, to the body type every tall person i know is elezen (albeit maybe not executed TO PERFECTION), to handsome devils of Au Ra, to your standard human male highlanders.
Are not bunny ears and a bunny nose too inhuman for you too?

And once again what about the short characters? All they've got arthritis cats and babies with mustaches. No elegant options there.


You do realize that adding another short option will push the average height down, and will let you play your very human highlander and feel taller than even more people without feeling like "a wow monster" instead of contributing to this goldilocks arms race of trying to appease someone who just cannot find the ABSOLUTE PERFECT example of tall human.

Let me ask, what changes would you make to the five existing tall characters to "fix" them for you?

to be honest pretty disgusting accusations have been thrown both ways, like people who want them taller to have some sort of complex or worse and should seek a psychiatrist. just because their opinion was different...

Good thing literally no one presented that as the only reason why someone would demand another tall race without ample amounts of context and specificity to leave room for good faith.

Change a bit those arguments and apply them to yourself, you are the Amnmaat of the shorter side, difference is you're even ruder and provoking than him, and at least he's not against allowing others to be shorter...

A this point I just hope they are exactly the same height and no one of you get what you want, not because I'm against giving options. that would be perfect for me, but just because of how stubborn both sides are.

Uh huh. How have I offended you so maybe I can clear up my intentions? Cause from where I am I can't see anything I've done thats rude that I haven't explained to death. Or is this comparison just because I'm active, haven't found a reason to change my opinion on their character design, but am still actively trying to engage with OP and figure out what exactly is going to make him happy? I'm treating this as a conversation and am holding myself to that standard, not suddenly treating this as some kind of formal debate, whipping out an argumentative hierarchy when someone comes at me in an obvious conversational tone. Cause uh, that is certainly a take. I guess.

[Komarimono]

I think we already have the perfect tall humans, and maybe they are after large and massive monster style races other then Hrothgar and Roegadyn? Since let's he honest, those bodies wouldn't survive its own weight as is, with the monstrous proportions they have, especially a maxed out male Roe.