Re-envisioning the concept of a "Thief" job...

[Allegor]

Insinuating a Theives Guild is too dark/evil for Limsa to handle. The place founded and currently occupied by Pirates

That's the thing though, the Rogues Guild is basically the black ops of Limsa, their class quest is literally about how the Marauders, the "proper authorities", don't trust them.

That said, it felt....misleading, how the "stealth class" of XIV works, specially when comparing it to other thief classes like WoW or GW II where stealth and cunning attacks are literally the class identity and core gameplay mechanics - you could remove Hide entirely and nothing about the job would change, because you don't use it at all aside from sneaking past mobs you're too lazy to kill.

[Seraphor]

I'd like to see an actual Rogue job.

Ninja is a good job but the fact it deviate from the Rogue to go Ninja, it just makes it... A Ninja job.
Core mechanics are Ninja, and the Rogue skills are just "fast and agile daggers attacks."

There's another problem, wether we like it or not, Rogue/Thief/Assasin and Ninja are different faces of the same coin.
Both are about stealth, speed, infiltration and assassination, using light and small weapons such as daggers that can be easily hidden.
The only difference is that one is based on western culture, the other on Japanese culture.

I'd like one, but it would be the same job based on a different culture, so not a good job.

You're thinking like a DnD player, and not accounting for the fact that this is a Final Fantasy game.

Rogue/Thief in FF has two signatures:
1. Daggers
2. Steal/Mug

That's it, that's all there is to it. Oh and a green bandana.

Ninja still has 1, and 2 can't work properly in this game, but it still has Mug.

[Xia_Thas]

That said, it felt....misleading, how the "stealth class" of XIV works, specially when comparing it to other thief classes like WoW or GW II where stealth and cunning attacks are literally the class identity - you could remove Hide entirely and nothing about the job would change.

An entire stealth mechanic borrowed from DoL just for Trick Attack. Feelsbadman.jpg

[Shougun]

Insinuating a Theives Guild is too dark/evil for Limsa to handle. The place founded and currently occupied by Pirates

Only quote on Thief being evil (well more accurately, 'not good'), that can be found readily, says basically that though-

Can you give us some more information on the Rogue Class and Ninja Job?
The Rogues were once thieves but through time they’ve evolved into their own respected guild. Why would a city allow a thieves guild? This is the reason they are not called thieves.

That it's too evil for WoL is the quote that no one can produce but keeps repeating, which given there is one that says essentially that for the city already, bears to question the reliability of the statement people make and if it's just pure hearsay and rumor people keep spreading.

[Xia_Thas]

That it's too evil for WoL is the quote that no one can produce but keeps repeating, which given there is one that says essentially that for the city already, bares to question the reliability of the statement people make and if it's just pure hearsay and rumor people keep spreading.

Best answer provided so far with actual backing.