Shadowbringers Paladin: Complaints, Feedback, and Suggestions

[MrThinker]

Either something with the shield like shown in the trailer or a different one minute gimmick.

That was Shield Swipe, which we lost in Shadowbringers.

[Otorinth]

My only complaint with Paladin is how doing it's rotation "normally" causes drifting. Hoping this is changed at 90.

[DaulBan]

My only complaint with Paladin is how doing it's rotation "normally" causes drifting. Hoping this is changed at 90.

Even if things more or less stayed the same, I'm pretty sure doing something as simple as 'nerfing' the HS and Confiteor MP cost to 2500 to remove one HS cast from the rotation would help shore it up a bit. A single GCD drift from raid buffs (assuming buffs are on CD, which depending on disengage they aren't) is probably fine.

[Undeadfire]

Or you can just Skip 1 Holy Spirit, and another Holy Spirit in next rotation to stay aligned with instant Trick Attacks (Only 2 Holy Spirit skips), nothing wrong with it, speed runners do it.

[DaulBan]

Or you can just Skip 1 Holy Spirit, and another Holy Spirit in next rotation to stay aligned with instant Trick Attacks (Only 2 Holy Spirit skips), nothing wrong with it, speed runners do it.

Not really a speedrun thing, so much as a region thing.

Some top NA/EU players.

Some Japanese ones.

They're basically co-equal DPS-wise. I'm not making a judgement call on whether or not one is better than the other, just saying IF they were going to standardize the 'shorter' rotation they may as well force it with the HS change since that's simplest IMO.

[Ultimatecalibur]

That was Shield Swipe, which we lost in Shadowbringers.

No it isn't. Shield swipe didn't have that flame animation. If anything it is likely the new Paladin capstone that allows for a BLU style counter attack off of Passage of Arms.

[Undeadfire]

Not really a speedrun thing, so much as a region thing.

Some top NA/EU players.

Some Japanese ones.

They're basically co-equal DPS-wise. I'm not making a judgement call on whether or not one is better than the other, just saying IF they were going to standardize the 'shorter' rotation they may as well force it with the HS change since that's simplest IMO.

You're comparing 5.5 logs. 5.4 logs on Speeds completely destroy the 5.5 competition it's not even funny. Once main raid patch is over, so is the competitive. Speedruns tend to be the response for top damage logs.

Edit: Or the other way is cheat the system for rank 1. Speedrun on top of a top notch damage log Plds will have skipped one Holy Spirit if they had a Ninja who TAs off cooldown not delayed.

[Corbeau]

My only complaint with PLD is that I don't have an AoE heal or a raise.

In actual complaints rather than wishful thinking: the Oath gauge is a clunkier version of ability charges. It'd feel much smoother as two charges of sheltron, which could just share charges with cover and intervention. Sucks to not be able to use it at the start of a fight or after a rez. Everything else is fine-to-great.

I will specifically defend Divine Veil: it's felt satisfying and come in super handy for helping with healing and mitigation bottlenecks in E12S, since you can put the buff up well in advance to be consumed during the (several) tiny windows between stuns and raidwides. The restrictions on activating the shield felt really annoying with random players in casual content but felt really rewarding when working with a consistent healing team in challenging content. Though it could stand to be more powerful given the trouble you have to go to compared to other tanks' raid mitigation abilities.

[Curisu]

PLD is the last tank that needs adjustments.
His only flaw is the gauge.

Give him a ogcd heal with his gauge and let it build up faster when he gets hit and this flaw is fixed.

Also, you can see it already in the trailer, PLD might get a shield attack or something like that. Finally the shield class is using his shield again.

[Ultaniku]

I don’t play PLD much, more of a GNB/DRK player, but when I do I don’t feel much wrong with it from my entirely casual view. Gauge is a little....ehh. I really do hope we get to use the shield more in combat leading into EW.