Final Fantasy XIV and a Culture of Enabling

[MyakotApelsia]

Your missing the point, If she asks for advice you should give it. Unless you are in a linkshell and or guild that has a set rules on how skilled you should be.

Wanting to help people is fine, but throwing out advice in party or at least not respecting them enough to ask in whispers if they would like some, and if they say no thank you. That is it.

Do you know how often players just openly start giving advice to players, as if they should? It is a public group with no set rules on how anyone should play.

Asking isn't really a requirement either. If you don't care about your performance, you wouldn't take it either way, regardless of whether someone asked you or not.

And i would argue giving "advice without consent" is still better for player experience than silent kick that some people do to not bother.

Also actual mentors (not bk crown ones) are probably having time of their life when the game tells them to help players, and then others tell them that giving advice is bad "unless asked"

Why in bloody hell do you actually think that he is suggesting anyone offering advice to her wife should be banned.

I'm glad this game protects her from people like me, Who would try and teach her or be upset and lash out at her for wasting my time. So i am glad that I can have some peace of mind knowing that if people try and ruin her way of thinking or fun. They can get in trouble

The only trouble ever that anyone ever gets are warnings/bans thanks to ToS abuse (and yeah i consider current state of tos to be "open to abuse").

[LaughingBanana]

The only trouble ever that anyone ever gets are warnings/bans thanks to ToS abuse (and yeah i consider current state of tos to be "open to abuse").

Hmm, I guess I can see why you think that way, I apologize.

But I really don't think he means that anyone giving advice to his wife should be banned. Just be reasonable about it and it should be fine.

And give the guy some break, he seems sleepy, hahaha.

[Wavaryen]

Asking isn't really a requirement either. If you don't care about your performance, you wouldn't take it either way, regardless of whether someone asked you or not.

And i would argue giving "advice without consent" is still better for player experience than silent kick that some people do to not bother.

Also actual mentors (not bk crown ones) are probably having time of their life when the game tells them to help players, and then others tell them that giving advice is bad "unless asked"






The only trouble ever that anyone ever gets are warnings/bans thanks to ToS abuse (and yeah i consider current state of tos to be "open to abuse").

I can see why you think that, and I did not mean it like that. My bad.


I've seen how it makes people feel to openly give advice in front of others, it makes people defensive, and some it makes them feel bad. Like they are failing the group. That is why I say asking shows more respect to the person. Ya that person does not to do it. Have you ever saw someone try to help someone in the group and they get super defensive?


Correcting people in front of others makes them feel bad. I know this because when I was a raid leader, I weaponize it. So I came off protective with that last comment my bad.