The clunkiness of tokens & vendors

[Raikai]

I think they hit a good spot with the currencies, especially with the three tiers of tomestones, but I'm the only one thinking that the tokens kind of need a better presentation/organization?

Sometimes I feel that there are way too many unecessary steps with token exchange. Let me give one example:

To get a Cryptlurker weapon, you need to farm 04 blades from the last Eden boss then got to Vendor A to change those 4 blades for a defragmented tomestone. Then you have to buy 10 Mowen's Tokens that cost 1000 Revelations at Vendor B. Then you go to Vendor C to trade the Defrag and the Mowen's Tokens for the weapon.

Why not having the weapon at Vendor C cost straightforward 1000k revelations + 4 blades?

Also the vendors in general, you have to go through a lot of menus for DoW/DoM. The newest Splendors vendors added to the capital cities, that sell old items, got a much better browsing interface with a dropdown menu instead of stuff being on separate panels.

I whish they would be the base for all the vendors out there, would be a huge QoL interface feature.

[Callinon]

I whish they would be the base for all the vendors out there, would be a huge QoL interface feature.

I agree though some of those panes could use some personal attention. There's one, I think it's the one in Ishgard, where there are two drop down choices that both say "Primal Gear" and they're for completely different sets of gear.

The token system in general I think is a holdover from 2.0 (maybe even 1.0) when you couldn't just buy the things straight with tomestones. Now... why it's STILL like that is anybody's guess.

[Rongway]

Why not having the weapon at Vendor C cost straightforward 1000k revelations + 4 blades?

It's so you can pre-spend your tomestones before you cap if you're not sure what else you want to buy yet because you're still waiting to see what you get from Savage in the first few weeks. Also keep in mind that the original cost is always 7 weapon tokens, not 4, so a non savage raider can't buy the weapon any earlier than week 7.

The thing I consider most undesirable regarding the 10x Tokens is that PLD only needs 7x Tokens and buys the shield outright for 300 tomes; just make them trade 10x Tokens for the swordshield pair for consistency.

[Callinon]

It's so you can pre-spend your tomestones before you cap if you're not sure what else you want to buy yet because you're still waiting to see what you get from Savage in the first few weeks. Also keep in mind that the original cost is always 7 weapon tokens, not 4, so a non savage raider can't buy the weapon any earlier than week 7.

The thing I consider most undesirable regarding the 10x Tokens is that PLD only needs 7x Tokens and buys the shield outright for 300 tomes; just make them trade 10x Tokens for the swordshield pair for consistency.

Sure but since those tokens aren't used to buy anything else, they're still unnecessary. The only thing you can do with them is buy a weapon. If you're buying a weapon, then you know that looooooooong before you reach 2000 tomestones.

[Rongway]

Sure but since those tokens aren't used to buy anything else, they're still unnecessary. The only thing you can do with them is buy a weapon. If you're buying a weapon, then you know that looooooooong before you reach 2000 tomestones.

But if you aren't doing Savage you literally cannot buy the weapon until week 7, by which you could have earned 2,700 tomestones. If you are doing Savage, at most one person in your group per week can buy the weapon, which means at least three people have to wait until they could have earned over 2,000 tomestones.

[Caitsithhh]

But if you aren't doing Savage you literally cannot buy the weapon until week 7, by which you could have earned 2,700 tomestones. If you are doing Savage, at most one person in your group per week can buy the weapon, which means at least three people have to wait until they could have earned over 2,000 tomestones.

It works mainly for savage. The extra steps were put in so ppl that don’t raid can get. It’s really not that big a deal

[Raikai]

It's so you can pre-spend your tomestones before you cap if you're not sure what else you want to buy yet because you're still waiting to see what you get from Savage in the first few weeks. Also keep in mind that the original cost is always 7 weapon tokens, not 4, so a non savage raider can't buy the weapon any earlier than week 7.

The thing I consider most undesirable regarding the 10x Tokens is that PLD only needs 7x Tokens and buys the shield outright for 300 tomes; just make them trade 10x Tokens for the swordshield pair for consistency.

Fair enough through that point of view... But even if the Mowen's tokens remains, the Defrag tomestone step is not really necessary, since there's no small cap in how many blades you can hoard. But even if that step itself remained, the whole vendor interface could surely have a glow up regarding the presentation.

[Callinon]

But if you aren't doing Savage you literally cannot buy the weapon until week 7, by which you could have earned 2,700 tomestones. If you are doing Savage, at most one person in your group per week can buy the weapon, which means at least three people have to wait until they could have earned over 2,000 tomestones.

Only if you adamantly refuse to buy anything else in the meantime.

[StealthPaladin]

All token lines should be converted into achievements that optionally require one type of mowen/rowena/etc token to claim reward after battle conditions are met

All token and tome exchange should be done via linkpearl to your Rowena account in the field from the game menus

There should be no tokens or tomes in one's inventory.
Even if that meant permanently losing slots to adjust for the loss of item sinks.

Tokens and tomes are such a hassle that it is worse to learn how to cash in content than learn the mechanics. On top of that you lose track of your progress in different lines unless you've memorized all the tokens/tomes and their mappings to gearsets. It is not fun to manage.