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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    The response then would be couldn't there be a more immersive system if that was it's purpose? The carrots personally I never found annoying and do fine immersive- the timer on my bird is annoying and doesn't feel immersive either (imo). Why wouldn't I summon my bird with a whistle lol? I shake the greens like cows or pigs being called in.

    Although I would agree that sometimes immersion just happens to have some annoyances (like epona can't infinite sprint, but that adds some gameplay mechanics and immersion), I guess we might just differ on that I don't think the chocobo system is a good example of immersion.
    Oh for sure there could be better systems to encourage immersion than a clock ticking down til you use another gysahl green, I was just giving my perspective on why the system isn't -bad- to me but I can agree there's many other things they could do on that front.

    Honestly the way it is now is almost a dead copy of how beastmaster's on-demand pets worked in FFXI, what with using a consumable item to summon a pet on a timer which is pretty simple. I would be happy if they allowed us to use different mounts as companions and extended the buff food system we have since right now it doesn't matter much at all.

    Another thing they could do as a band-aid measure is give our companion an Affinity meter that grows the more we use them and as it reaches milestones it could increase the time our bird can be out off one bunch of greens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    Oh for sure there could be better systems to encourage immersion than a clock ticking down til you use another gysahl green, I was just giving my perspective on why the system isn't -bad- to me but I can agree there's many other things they could do on that front.

    Honestly the way it is now is almost a dead copy of how beastmaster's on-demand pets worked in FFXI, what with using a consumable item to summon a pet on a timer which is pretty simple. I would be happy if they allowed us to use different mounts as companions and extended the buff food system we have since right now it doesn't matter much at all.

    Another thing they could do as a band-aid measure is give our companion an Affinity meter that grows the more we use them and as it reaches milestones it could increase the time our bird can be out off one bunch of greens.
    WELL THEN, I GUESS WE ARE IN FULL AGREEMENT--- FINE BY ME! lol





    On a deeper note though of course there must be some sort of thought behind why a system is as it is, doesn't mean the thought is the best or still true but I never think the devs are without brain - can't even make an okay game without a brain, and you definitely couldn't make one of the most popular mmos in such a situation .

    Personally if I had to justify the system as it is currently I'd lean towards server stress, the rest of the reasons while they may have back story are not, imo, enough of any reason not to make wide the gates of potential improvement. Even the server one might come up with an interesting mix, but clearly is one of the issues that's far less flexible. Although I'd hope it's not because I'd hope it can improve lol.

    Clearly a big fan of chocobos: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/380224 :P

    On that topic of reasons existing but perhaps not in the best format, I am fairly certain that the healer changes, that are not popular with some healers, at least here I see on forums, are actually because of other healers who wanted to focus on healing specifically, and due to some of their other balance designs, and perhaps not perfect implementation, we've now healers who can mostly oGCD in casual content and yet also have very bare bone 'other' tasks.

    In that way I really think we agree on a deeper level (purpose of posting, affinity, what have you), if you were listing a potential reason yet not saying things can't change (as I do in some healer threads where I see people say things like they think SE has no idea what they want or why they do what they do- and I personally think it was clearly in response to player feedback but perhaps not done in the best way that it could have been done).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 05-13-2021 at 01:28 PM.

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