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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    You're planning to use parsing.. a known "don't ask don't tell" issue with SE, to report someone.
    A known by whom? Do you really expect someone who is new FFXIV to know that tracking DPS is a bannable offence? In what other modern games DPS tracking gets you banned? At the end of the day, I think I am talking with humans when submitting a report, not mindless bots who enforce rules because rules are rules. Whatever the case, the response to my question is pretty unanimous, don't do it, kick them or just leave.

    To an outsider such as myself, players with 8 years old account who claim that my post is troll look like people who have warped their minds to the point where they can't possibly empathize or understand the perspective of a new player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roeshel View Post
    A known by whom? Do you really expect someone who is new FFXIV to know that tracking DPS is a bannable offence? In what other modern games DPS tracking gets you banned? At the end of the day, I think I am talking with humans when submitting a report, not mindless bots who enforce rules because rules are rules. Whatever the case, the response to my question is pretty unanimous, don't do it, kick them or just leave.

    To an outsider such as myself, players with 8 years old account who claim that my post is troll look like people who have warped their minds to the point where they can't possibly empathize or understand the perspective of a new player.
    For the record, using a parser gets you actioned if you admit to it in game or have a go at someone with parser readouts. The devs can't actually determine whether or not you're using something without your own admission of it. That's why it's described as a 'don't ask don't tell' thing. Generally you'll be fine if you keep your usage of ACT to yourself. It's.. semi tolerated because of it's usage for the Savage crowd. Reprimanding others with info from it is not because SE doesn't want to foster such an environment.

    Generally you're supposed to use it for self improvement aimed towards high end content, not to work yourself up into a frothing frenzy at how bad others are doing. There's more than a few people here who can tell you how depressing and sobering it is to do generic DF content with ACT active. It apparently won't do your mood any good.

    In all honesty though you don't need ACT for that even, I can tell when, and for the record, I do not use parsers as I don't engage in high end content, I can tell even without any tools when a run isn't going as it should. When you do.. I don't know, Stone Vigil five times for the XP and in one of those five runs time it all goes so much slower and every step seems like you have to fight Nidhogg to take it, yeah.. something is up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roeshel View Post
    Do you really expect someone who is new FFXIV to know that tracking DPS is a bannable offence?
    I would not expect a new player to know about an unsupported third party addon in the first place. If anyone told you about the addon but didn't tell you that it's not officially allowed, then they're to blame for your ignorance. But now you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    I would not expect a new player to know about an unsupported third party addon in the first place. If anyone told you about the addon but didn't tell you that it's not officially allowed, then they're to blame for your ignorance. But now you know.
    I just looked it up in google and downloaded dps meter following a youtube guide in which I was only told that it is fine as I don't use it as an excuse to shame someone, perfectly reasonable.
    Without dps meter I would have had to use excel and manually calculate the best rotation for my job in most of the situation. Which is something I would have done if there was no dps meter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roeshel View Post
    following a youtube guide in which I was only told that it is fine as I don't use it as an excuse to shame someone, perfectly reasonable.
    Just the fact they have to say "it is fine..." tells you it's not really, but that there is some "wiggle room" or "gray area" being presented. Any officially supported DPS meter where it is truly fine needs no such statements.
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    I actually installed ACT a little while after finishing ARR.
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