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    Xeronia Alden
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    Summoner Lv 100
    An FC mate of mine suggested this so I will just copy paste it here as he put this on a reddit post:

    I personally don't see the leap in logic that makes one assume the Egi's are going away when the translated quote says:

    "Currently Summoner as a job is reaching somewhat of a breaking point when it comes to the overall play mechanics, so we've halted work on Egi-glamour for the time being to shift focus."

    Jumping the gun and saying the pets are done for is a bold claim if this is the basis for the argument as most of SMN and SCH ghosting issues surround the transitions between the trance pets (such as the Demis and Seraph) and mashing pet GCDs with their respective oGCDs (such as EA -> Aetherpact/Enkindle -> EA) .

    Most of SMN's current problems lie in it having no clear focus and when it comes to removing anything off of the class, i could make a better argument for the Demi summons being removed and instead having Summon 1, 2, and 3 all upgrade into the summons SMN has from the Demis (ie Ifrit -> Bahaumut, Garuda -> Phoenix, and Titan turns into (meme ahead don't kill me) Alexander).

    This would also solve issues related to Egi-Glamour as now each of those summons has a new glamour option related to it from the upgrade and would mean that the devs would not need to work on Egi-glamour as they would now be in essence reusing assets that exist in game. For those concerned about the sizes of these new persistent summons, if this is the direction the team were to go i would expect them to default Bahaumut to small and add in a small option for Phoenix and the player can decide whether they want big summons.

    For those who say that the pets are the issue, BRD's gameplay currently is similar to those who suggest SMN should be a trance mage and it too is a class in dire need of a rework.
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    Rika Lockhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeronia View Post
    For those who say that the pets are the issue, BRD's gameplay currently is similar to those who suggest SMN should be a trance mage and it too is a class in dire need of a rework.
    Let's not try to say that the song rotation cycle is the reason Bard players are unhappy. The core of Bard's rotation is not the issue, it's still the same one from Stormblood where it was one of the most popular and loved classes in the game. Bard players only want a rework to the support kit that got absolutely axed coming into Shadowbringers so that the new shiny toy Dancer could shine.

    Those of us who have an issues with Pets don't just want to see them axed, we've just given up on them ever being done right. Summoner has been my main caster class since 2.0, I've swapped off Bard and raided on summoner in two separate expansions. I've been through every single rework that they've done on those damn Egi's and honestly I just don't believe the dev team can do it right. Of all the mechanics on Summoner that has bloated the class so much, they are the only one I don't see a good potential reworking that makes feasible sense that the dev team can pull off without issue.
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