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[IceBlueNinja]

Let me to stop you right there
First of all, allow me to clarify that my post you quoted was made purely to add about 'generic complainer healer who overheals' that I've seen in my gameplay experience. It bears no intention to specifically call you out cause honestly speaking? I don't even know you as a player nor how you play healers in-game.
Second of all.... (now that I've read all...)
Re-read your own initial post once again---heck, even listen to yourself as you read that out loud before you even type any further replies. What do you call that wall of text then? Here, let me point you which one specifically:

Fun aside, OP was venting about situations that unlikely to reflect how it could be the fault of a single role: healer, albeit the statements are also mostly one-sided. It was an echo chamber bait, but clearly plenty around here are perceptive enough. Majority simply disagree. You did not, which is fine. However, then you -also- shared your own story. Essentially you're putting yourself as potential subject of agreement and disagreements just like OP's.

But nevermind that. While I was taking my time writing this reply I also got to see how you and Zedx interact---it's crystal clear now that you simply do not leave any room for healthy exchanges & potential improvements; such is the nature of this medium called 'Forum'. It really saves me a lot of paragraphs of any attempts to offer corrections, something that Zedx also tried.

healthy exchanges when zed call me petty first? yeah ok. the op said healer oh well anyone just say what comes to mind any role can do their mess ups but to see how it bothers you because they just say healer show how weak minded you are, least it did not bother me because there is two sides to any story.

[IceBlueNinja]

Trying to talk down to AST's far better than you, who have accomplished far more, when you just have nonsense feely-craft and tiny vague sample sizes from dungeons and Normal content is hilarious and proves the point. You're unwilling to learn and therefore can never develop or improve as a healer.



Great, looking forward to it

People not wanting to do content or prefer to do other things to enjoy the game signifies not knowing anything about the game?yall always claim about improvement and claiming to help people but no you sprew insults and downgrade people who dont agree with the lot of you, trying to make yourself look good. You and many as usual have all this big talk only behind screens lol. Sorry that ff is the only game you seem to can have not my fault I got others. Accomplish far more wow zed and you did more things than I have that I do not care about LOL. Think what you want just cause someone dont bandwagon and roast others do not indicate a bad player. Zed calling me out on being petty and greifing cause i dont res the dps bot but cant answer my question about smns/rdms who dont pick up the healers if both die? Also complaining about heal bots getting coms and not dsps bots not getting any... mm wonder why.

[Semirhage]

Healers who refuse to do any healing at all and only queue into instances to spam the 1 key while everyone dies around them are one of my favorite Sylphie fantasies.

[ty_taurus]

Healers who refuse to do any healing at all and only queue into instances to spam the 1 key while everyone dies around them are one of my favorite Sylphie fantasies.

I have never EVER seen this in my 8 years of playing this game. Maybe there was one annoying player who did this once but that is not representative of a group of players.

[Liam_Harper]

People not wanting to do content or prefer to do other things to enjoy the game signifies not knowing anything about the game?

Yes, it signifies less knowledge about the game overall because you've experienced less content and situations. You couldn't claim to know how high end healing works if you've never played healer at a high level in endgame.

yall always claim about improvement and claiming to help people but no you sprew insults and downgrade people who dont agree with the lot of you, trying to make yourself look good.

The amount of good advice and help you've received on these forums and outright ignored because "Noct is best" and your examples from tiny sample sizes in dungeons is baffling. If people were here to spew insults they wouldn't waste their time explaining things in detail.

Zed calling me out on being petty and greifing cause i dont res the dps bot but cant answer my question about smns/rdms who dont pick up the healers if both die? Also complaining about heal bots getting coms and not dsps bots not getting any... mm wonder why.

That's because he's correct. If a RDM or SMN in your group was also griefing, why would that make it ok for you to grief? That's the definition of petty and only harms the rest of the group who don't deserve the slower run.
Healbots get comms because many players who don't main a healer don't know when the next raidwide will happen and feel safer when they have a full health bar. If you know the next raidwide is 25 seconds away and let HoT's handle it, players don't feel safe even though you're contributing far more to the team. A dps healer who uses no GCD heals can both out-dps and out-heal a healbot simultaneously (which happens frequently) and often receive no comms. Healing well is a thankless job.

[Semirhage]

I have never EVER seen this in my 8 years of playing this game. Maybe there was one annoying player who did this once but that is not representative of a group of players.

I know. It's because this hypothetical person is either a dedicated one-off troll, or the product of a secret conspiracy of evil mustache-twirling DPS healers trying to besmirch the good name of Good And Honest Healers Everywhere, and if one believes other people are that dedicated to doing something so outlandish and fruitless then I've got a bridge for sale.

[MilkieTea]

I know. It's because this hypothetical person is either a dedicated one-off troll, or the product of a secret conspiracy of evil mustache-twirling DPS healers trying to besmirch the good name of Good And Honest Healers Everywhere, and if one believes other people are that dedicated to doing something so outlandish and fruitless then I've got a bridge for sale.

*raises hand* Is it gonna make me come off a certain way if I say I’ve experienced a DPS’n’rez-only healer?

only once, and it’s not like it made me think of healers a certain way, but it’s certainly annoying enough to stand out in ones head. Average healers are a dime a dozen, which makes the outliers a lot more prevalent in your brain.

However because of this I can tell you every time I’ve gotten a shoddy healer - which is probably like 10 times out of the probably 300 dungeon runs I’ve done. Majority in Aurum Vale (those dang WHM, I swear it sounds like I have a vendetta against them when I don’t, it’s just WHM IN THAT DUNGEON that suck) and a few in other dungeons. Just yesterday my group wiped twice because we got a pug healer that didn’t listen to us explain the mechanics of the last boss in gubal library.

I don’t know how on earth others negative experiences have become the majority for them, though.

[Semirhage]

*raises hand* Is it gonna make me come off a certain way if I say I’ve experienced a DPS’n’rez-only healer?

only once, and it’s not like it made me think of healers a certain way, but it’s certainly annoying enough to stand out in ones head. Average healers are a dime a dozen, which makes the outliers a lot more prevalent in your brain.

However because of this I can tell you every time I’ve gotten a shoddy healer - which is probably like 10 times out of the probably 300 dungeon runs I’ve done. Majority in Aurum Vale (those dang WHM, I swear it sounds like I have a vendetta against them when I don’t, it’s just WHM IN THAT DUNGEON that suck) and a few in other dungeons. Just yesterday my group wiped twice because we got a pug healer that didn’t listen to us explain the mechanics of the last boss in gubal library.

I don’t know how on earth others negative experiences have become the majority for them, though.

The question is, was that healer just really bad at juggling damage and healing, or were they a purposeful malicious force who woke up this morning saying, "Yes, today I will only cast Stone because wiping everyone in my leveling roulette is the only thing that sustains me in this veil of tears"?

Because outside the very rare dedicated troll, I'm guessing it was the former. And I dislike it when people screech and wail about healers trying to deal damage and failing to balance it well, because whenever I see that kind of critical forum thread leveled at that type of healer it's basically never "hey looks like this healer can't handle these pulls, maybe adjust your mental slider on heal output to damage" and comes packaged more like "Stupid stinky healers not knowing their place. Don't they know they're not supposed to touch those damage spells if it means creating any difficulty for meeeeeeeee? Healers are slaves who should live to serve my dungeon experience, who cares if they're having fun?"

The unfortunate elephant in the room is, the more skilled a healer gets at the efficiency game, the closer to the edge of death the group is going to ride. Them's the breaks. Complaint threads that wag fingers at this fact are basically asking for healer jobs that can't fail them. Why not ask for the invincibility buff in instances and be done with it?

[ty_taurus]

*raises hand* Is it gonna make me come off a certain way if I say I’ve experienced a DPS’n’rez-only healer?

only once, and it’s not like it made me think of healers a certain way, but it’s certainly annoying enough to stand out in ones head. Average healers are a dime a dozen, which makes the outliers a lot more prevalent in your brain.

However because of this I can tell you every time I’ve gotten a shoddy healer - which is probably like 10 times out of the probably 300 dungeon runs I’ve done. Majority in Aurum Vale (those dang WHM, I swear it sounds like I have a vendetta against them when I don’t, it’s just WHM IN THAT DUNGEON that suck) and a few in other dungeons. Just yesterday my group wiped twice because we got a pug healer that didn’t listen to us explain the mechanics of the last boss in gubal library.

I don’t know how on earth others negative experiences have become the majority for them, though.

And that's the thing really. Nearly everyone who heals is competent enough to manage their way through every piece of roulette content in the game, yet someone gets 1 run with an obnoxious healer and suddenly it's a toxic playstyle that's ruining FF14 and Square needs to do something about it. Welcome to the world of MMOs. Once in a blue moon, you'll see a shoddy player. So what?

[ItMe]

*raises hand* Is it gonna make me come off a certain way if I say I’ve experienced a DPS’n’rez-only healer?

That tereible idea sounds like it could make for some fun FC raid nights haha~