REQUEST: Replace the Current Land Purchase Mechanic With A Weighted Lottery

[Awha]

Lottery is only a solution to a player made problem. Do not click for hours trying to get a house. Check every so often click a few times then leave. This will have a similar effect as a lottery system just does not require SE to spend time on a fix that solves nothing that cannot be done within the current system.

Please people stop spending hours trying to get a plot. Just let RNG decide see a plot check it out every so often and click

[Sotaris]

Please people stop spending hours trying to get a plot. Just let RNG decide see a plot check it out every so often and click

This will never happen due to people want a house really bad.

[Awha]

This will never happen due to people want a house really bad.

Then as someone in the past has said then it becomes a them problem.

[Sotaris]

Then as someone in the past has said then it becomes a them problem.

That's one way to look at it, in a selfish way I might add.
It's partially a player made problem but it's ultimately the game developer's job to fix it (or just add more wards and hope people be quiet for a day or 2 before they all taken lol)

[forumaccount]

Let's please not harass anyone because of the megathread.
If they are happy with their own thread power to them. Not every voice has to join the chorus of the megathread, and trying to force every conversation into it will just breed resentment and bad vibes.

(And for what it's worth to both sides of this issue I don't think the idea of a weighted lottery has come up in there yet. So since OP likes their thread I'll probably add a link to it in the megathread if that's ok).

Thank you. I simply won't respond to personal attacks. The purpose of my post isn't to be inflammatory.

Also, feel free to link it to a megathread, and thank you for letting the post stand on its own.

I can tell a lot of people aren't reading the post, and are getting hung up on the term "lottery." So I've removed the word from the body of the original post (even though a lotto and an rng roll are semantically the same; people just see the word and associate it with a traditional purely random single draw and don't read the details).

I don't seem to be able to change the title though. If you have that power, can you replace the word "Lottery" in the title with "Random Queue" so that it reads, "REQUEST: Replace the Current Land Purchase Mechanic With A Weighted Random Queue"?

[forumaccount]

Lotteries would be a minor improvement (you basically register once during the timer and it randomly goes to one person who signed, so one click instead of hours) but ultimately won't fix much. The only two options are to make housing a high price relative to supply (so you have to work to earn a small and Mansions are mainly FC group effort) or instanced housing.

The player base is very strongly against expensive housing and instanced housing just isn't realistic with the amount of Dev work likely involved. If they could make instanced housing without excessive effort, they'd have done so instead of apartments. So here we are. Housing is just too cheap, any new player can pull a few mil together before even reaching lv80, so demand is through the roof to a point where the servers could never handle it if they made enough supply. We wanted affordable housing, so we chose this.

- "so one click instead of hours) but ultimately won't fix much" - This I find most contradicting. And it fixes the problem that I stated the solution was intended to fix in the first lines of my original post, that is the waste of player time, not the availability of housing.

- You go into instanced dungeons every time you log on. They can do so with housing easily.

- No one "chose" this. This is the intentional design of the developers.

[forumaccount]

Tldr: No.
Long answer: No. This wouldn't solve anything really. Sure you artificially feel better but rng is rng and OP suggestion would punish people who can't be online all day, i.e working.



Where did MilkieTea yell?

- It would solve a monumental waste of time. You wouldn't artificially feel better, you would feel 22 hours saved better. Both mechanics would still rely on rng yes. OP's solution would directly benefit people who can't be online all day more so than the current mechanic (i.e. queue up, afk, go to work). It certainly wouldn't punish people any more so than the current mechanic.

- No one said she yelled.

[Awha]

That's one way to look at it, in a selfish way I might add.
It's partially a player made problem but it's ultimately the game developer's job to fix it (or just add more wards and hope people be quiet for a day or 2 before they all taken lol)

Do not get me wrong I do think SE should do something to fix the situation but wasting time adding a bandaid fix that one can personally already impose the same effect on themselves seems like a waste of time and resources.

One wants to live it up to RNG then all they have to do is check every so often and leave it up to RNG.

[forumaccount]

Lottery is only a solution to a player made problem. Do not click for hours trying to get a house. Check every so often click a few times then leave. This will have a similar effect as a lottery system just does not require SE to spend time on a fix that solves nothing that cannot be done within the current system.

Please people stop spending hours trying to get a plot. Just let RNG decide see a plot check it out every so often and click

- It is not a player made problem, it is the intentional design of the developers. The current mechanic not only incentivizes, but demands that the player spend hours to get a plot, as they are required to be physically present in location to qualify for the purchase if they make the rng timing. This gives way to the emergent dominant strategy of plot camping, as it is the only way to maximize one's eligibility at the cost of real world time. In the alternative I suggest, one only has to be present in location to queue up, and to purchase when notified if they received purchasing rights. Eligibility is equally maximized by default, and additionally weighted based on current property ownership, and the time one has spent in queue (mind you the time spent in queue is still time enjoying all the other systems of the game, vs. sitting at a placard). There are only time and gameplay benefits to the solution I've suggested.

- The suggested solution is a simple fix. It wouldn't require any altering of the current housing mechanics, or the timer. It would just be the addition of a queue people are placed in when they click the placard. Maybe even an additional UI window to keep track of queue progress.

- People are going to play the game in the most optimal fashion as per the rules and systems the devs have set forth. Optimal gameplay routines are derived from the development team's game design.

- But I agree, they are essentially the same random draw, minus days of wasted time. So there are no drawbacks to implementing the solution.

[Sotaris]

- It would solve a monumental waste of time. You wouldn't artificially feel better, you would feel 22 hours saved better. Both mechanics would still rely on rng yes. OP's solution would directly benefit people who can't be online all day more so than the current mechanic (i.e. queue up, afk, go to work). It certainly wouldn't punish people any more so than the current mechanic.

- No one said she yelled.

weighted based on the overall amount of time a player has spent in queues for land purchases

Way I read this is if you be online longer time = bigger chance? So if that's correct that means people who can't be online as much will be punished by your suggestion.

Also, why are you talking about yourself in 3rd person? That's weird.

I disagree. No need to yell.

You did, you said she were yelling.

- It is not a player made problem, it is the intentional design of the developers.

It's player caused due to flippers. It was not part of the orginal design. Maybe you haven't been playing so long?