Lore-ish thoughts about chocobo riding.

[Enkidoh]

Much of the lore for chocobos in FFXIV has actually had it's origins in past FF games (dating back to it's very first appearence in FFII) and has been refined throughout the series ever since - the names for different breeds for different races for instance was originally from FFXI.

Considering that the chocobo was very loosely based on the 'horseclaws' from the classic Studio Ghibli anime Nauusica, which in turn was based on the extinct prehistoric bird diatrayma (with elements of modern chickens and ostriches/emus thrown in for good measure), it's perhaps best not to overthink the details of how chocobos can be ridden as mounts and just accept that they are - this is fantasy after all and a willing suspension of disbelief is needed.

[Severaux_Vilauclaire]

Much of the lore for chocobos in FFXIV has actually had it's origins in past FF games (dating back to it's very first appearence in FFII) and has been refined throughout the series ever since - the names for different breeds for different races for instance was originally from FFXI.

Considering that the chocobo was very loosely based on the 'horseclaws' from the classic Studio Ghibli anime Nauusica, which in turn was based on the extinct prehistoric bird diatrayma (with elements of modern chickens and ostriches/emus thrown in for good measure), it's perhaps best not to overthink the details of how chocobos can be ridden as mounts and just accept that they are - this is fantasy after all and a willing suspension of disbelief is needed.

Oh, of course — but I like to imagine how it's done. I'm an inveterate world-builder in my freelance writing work and it just sort of happens while I'm riding my chocobo from point A to point B for game purposes.

[Enkidoh]

Oh, of course — but I like to imagine how it's done. I'm an inveterate world-builder in my freelance writing work and it just sort of happens while I'm riding my chocobo from point A to point B for game purposes.

Oh you're right, and I too love world-building with my various story and comic ideas I always have floating around in my head, so I definetely share your enthusiasm for the 'shower-thoughts' about this (I'm really sorry if I came across as too dismissive!).

It is just that I think a lot of the missing aspects of the chocobo's lore have never been touched on because there has been no narrative or gameplay requirement to do so. And as fantasy by it's very definition "makes the impossible probable", dealing with such niceties as the chocobo species' deeper anatomy probably is something you won't see SE themselves touch on too much unless the main story or gameplay requires it.

However, having said that, it is possible to still fill in some of the blanks at least by looking outside FFXIV itself and through the chocobo's history in previous FF games (and titles since):

1: With two legs, a chocobo can't buck like a horse can. To unseat a rider it's going to have to try other things.

Considering rental chocobos do 'dismount' you after the ten minute time limit expires, I think it's much easier than it appears. Of course actual mount chocobos do not do this, so it could probably just be not so much the chocobo throwing you off it when time is up, and more just the game showing you "doing the right thing" and dismounting once the time is up - but your malmage may vary on that one.

4: Because chocobos only have two legs, laming one is a Very Big Problem. I don't imagine they live too long without swift healing magic and possible splinting and other care.

Funny you should mention that because until recently laming was actually a debuff you could be affected by while riding any mount if you happened to be attacked by an enemy that was aggressive (specifically in version 1.0 - ARR instead replaced it with 'Heavy', presumedly because of the addition of different non-chocobo mounts compared to 1.0, but it had the same affect, in that the mount's speed was greatly reduced to that of a crawl. It was not permenant though and wore off after a while, suggesting chocobos have some degree of tolerance to such injuries. Considering throughout the series chocobos are capable of even wielding magic (*cough* red chocobos *cough cough*), and that FFXIV is no exception, including healing magic, that means it is possible that they could heal such injuries themselves magically.

I do imagine bone breakage would be an unfortunate tendency for chocobos given they are birds who possess hollow bones after all, but it's something that to my knowledge at least hasn't yet been depicted in the game (although it's stated that the illegal poachers in the Chocobo Forest in Dravania use beartraps to capture the birds, something the legitimate hunters in Tailfeather find abhorrent due to the injuries it causes chocobos, so laming probably is a result of that).

Another point that needs to be mentioned though is they do seem to be particularly prone to disease - just prior to the Calamity chocobo use in Eorzea was curtailed greatly due to a disease called Chocobo Blight that reached pandemic levels throughout Eorzea, resulting in Ishgard basically quarantining it's birds and refusing to release any to the citystates other than the ones they already posessed. Eventually the quarantine worked and the Blight diminished enough that Ishgard once again released chocobos to the other citystates, and thus to adventurers (this was the lore reason why in 1.0 you originally couldn't ride a chocobo, and why even to this day an adventurer cannot just ride on legally, they have to show justification (read: ability) before they're authorized to ride them.

7: HOW DO YOU GUIDE THE DANG BIRD. Horses are guided with the pressure of the bit in the mouth. Chocobo tack does not have a bit. One imagines that most riding chocobos are actually trained to obey dressage-like cues and can be guided almost exclusively with the knees.

Basically, you don't. Chocobos are considered actually 'semi-intelligent', and so are considered strong-willed. This is why in the Chocobo Races (based directly on Chocobo Racing in FFVII) you can't actually directly control the chocobo but merely guide it and hope it follows your commands, the more likely it is to do this determined by stats.

Of course as a mount this is quietly ignored for the sake of gameplay, but given we're also riding the likes of Midgardsormr who is fully sentinent and free-willed, I think it's more of a case of 'the chocobo has such a strong bond with you they know to instinctively go where you want them to.' Or, putting it another way, you could simply say it's another aspect of the Echo.

8: Chocobos seem to be eaters of herbage as opposed to grazers of grass, like ungulates. Without teeth, they probably seek out pebbles and stones to eat as gastroliths to help grind food in the gizzard.

They do, throughout the series their preferred fodder are vegetables, specifically leafy 'greens', especially their signature food, gysahl greens (which vary in depiction from a raddish like plant in FFVII to more like the cabbages seen here in FFXIV - the name itself was a town in FFIII). Having said that, the infamous Fat Chocobo in his various incarnations is notorious for pretty much eating anything and everything (some games he even functions as an item inventory - I'll leave it up to your imagination as to where and how exactly he stores and recovers those items!). The use of stones to grind up their food in their stomachs is highly likely, but has never been depicted or stated in any FF game from my understanding at least.

9: Sustaining chocobos on voyage may therefore be a bit easier than sustaining horses on voyage, as long as your turnips and beets and mangel-wurzels don't spoil.

Considering in FFXIV at least chocobos were natively only found in Eorzea and not across the world, and given Aldernard is not exactly a very large continent (Ilsabard is far larger), I think that wouldn't have been too much of a problem - especially post Calamity manned aetheryte camps and hamlets are fairly common along most major roads that can provide fodder and water for chocobos and (in the case of chocobo carriage services), fresh birds for long distance travels. But certainly taking a few bags of greens and a barrel of water would probably be enough for most chocobo caravans.

10: Bird manure is generally too "hot" to be used on crops from scratch. But well-mixed with plant matter (scraps from the chocobos' own feed bowls, stall straw) it will compost down into a rich soil amendment.

Actually, an early quest in Gridania has you gathering up chocobo dung at the stables at Treespeak in the North Shroud that the chocobokeeps use as fertilizer for the gysahl greens crops, but from what I remember they didn't mix it with other scraps or extract say phosphorous from it, but simply used it on the crops as is. Of course, this may just be simplification for the sake of gameplay.

Another very disturbing use for chocobo dung is that it is apparently the 'secret ingredient' imps use to make 'Old Pumpkin Cookies' in the Halloween events which they gave to unsuspecting adventurers, so take from that what you will.

[Iscah]

Considering rental chocobos do 'dismount' you after the ten minute time limit expires, I think it's much easier than it appears. Of course actual mount chocobos do not do this, so it could probably just be not so much the chocobo throwing you off it when time is up, and more just the game showing you "doing the right thing" and dismounting once the time is up - but your malmage may vary on that one.

Magicked rental saddles. Stay on for more than your allotted time and they'll encourage you to dismount by becoming unbearably hot or electrified or something. Possibly both.

(Only affects you and not the bird, of course.)

[Vyrerus]

Much of the lore for chocobos in FFXIV has actually had it's origins in past FF games (dating back to it's very first appearence in FFII) and has been refined throughout the series ever since - the names for different breeds for different races for instance was originally from FFXI.

Considering that the chocobo was very loosely based on the 'horseclaws' from the classic Studio Ghibli anime Nauusica, which in turn was based on the extinct prehistoric bird diatrayma (with elements of modern chickens and ostriches/emus thrown in for good measure), it's perhaps best not to overthink the details of how chocobos can be ridden as mounts and just accept that they are - this is fantasy after all and a willing suspension of disbelief is needed.

Yeah... horseclaws... >_>;


An another note, it's entirely possible to ride modern Ostriches in real life, if you're about 200 pounds or less. Also seems more like both Horseclaws and Chocobos, at least how they look now, is based off the Gastornis.

[Iscah]

Yeah... horseclaws... >_>;

But why.


I guess it's possible they started as inspired by horseclaws, turned into that and someone else said "yeah, no, let's just go with 'horseclaws but yellow'."


Also from a quick Wikipedia search, Diatryma redirects to Gastornis anyway. It used to be a separate genus but has now been merged.

[Fenral]

But why.

I guess it's possible they started as inspired by horseclaws, turned into that and someone else said "yeah, no, let's just go with 'horseclaws but yellow'."

The Final Fantasy wikia suggests they were originally modeled after this monstrosity. A snack food mascot whose catchphrase was "Kuue!" ("Eat it!")

Despite his "character design" credit, Amano was mainly a concept artist for the early games. The only actual art of his that made it into the games was the monster graphics. The actual character designs were more-or-less done by Kazuko Shibuya when she dotted out the sprites. (I'm sure at the time she had no idea of the magnitude of the service she was doing for our feathered friends. I think we're all grateful.)

[Enkidoh]

Yeah... horseclaws... >_>;


An another note, it's entirely possible to ride modern Ostriches in real life, if you're about 200 pounds or less. Also seems more like both Horseclaws and Chocobos, at least how they look now, is based off the Gastornis.

Haha, yeah, but then, that's Amano's art for you. (Interesting tidbit, is that 'pink featherless flamingo' design ended up being used in the FFV sequel anime Legend of the Crystals, so take from that what you will. ).

And yes, is is definetely possible to ride ostriches and emus, they're strong enough to bear a light rider... the main issue is their lack of easy domestication which is usually the requirement for a mount animal.

As for the gastornis and the chocobo's design, may I now also present to you Bullockornis, aka the 'demon duck of doom' which is an example of extinct Australian megafauna, of which modern artists' imrpessions seem to scarily depict something very similar to the chocobo... but that's just coincidence (and proof that Australia really is a FF world in reality... but I digress ).

[Vyrerus]

Haha, yeah, but then, that's Amano's art for you. (Interesting tidbit, is that 'pink featherless flamingo' design ended up being used in the FFV sequel anime Legend of the Crystals, so take from that what you will. ).

And yes, is is definetely possible to ride ostriches and emus, they're strong enough to bear a light rider... the main issue is their lack of easy domestication which is usually the requirement for a mount animal.

As for the gastornis and the chocobo's design, may I now also present to you Bullockornis, aka the 'demon duck of doom' which is an example of extinct Australian megafauna, of which modern artists' imrpessions seem to scarily depict something very similar to the chocobo... but that's just coincidence (and proof that Australia really is a FF world in reality... but I digress ).

All we gotta do is try to breed them, and then they'll fall in love with the human rancher instead... err, that might not make them easier to ride, never mind!

[Rannie]

Yeah... horseclaws... >_>;


An another note, it's entirely possible to ride modern Ostriches in real life, if you're about 200 pounds or less. Also seems more like both Horseclaws and Chocobos, at least how they look now, is based off the Gastornis.

that picture almost (and I say almost) reminds me of the poster used for the cartoon move Wizards

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizards_(film)