Criticism of Shadowbringers and the hostility there in

[BlitzAceRush]

The sub question is kind of a moot point, in an age where most MMO's either launch free to play/buy to play or quickly end up that way, 14 has maintained a sub, SE have the numbers, if they thought they'd make more more money by dropping it, they would, they obviously feel they wouldn't and given the game continues to do well, they appear to be correct.

[Vahlnir]

The sub question is kind of a moot point, in an age where most MMO's either launch free to play/buy to play or quickly end up that way, 14 has maintained a sub, SE have the numbers, if they thought they'd make more more money by dropping it, they would, they obviously feel they wouldn't and given the game continues to do well, they appear to be correct.

SE has made some pretty costly mistakes over the years, but when they find something that works they will milk that until it runs dry. Currently, FF XIV is their biggest cash cow. FF 7 is a close second since they've been milking that one for almost 25 years. lol

[linayar]

And honestly, we should get more from our sub than what we're getting, which is the original argument, and has absolutely nothing to do with schedules.

You do get more from your sub: You get to experience content when there is more active community participation and while its difficulty hasn't been nerfed, and you get to do any limited time event if applicable, and you get to keep housing.

Other than that, different people have different priorities while the devs also have their own content schedule to work on, so if a patch has very heavy crafting/gathering content and you only like battle content, you can choose to unsubscribe and wait for future patch while knowing that things like the MSQ can be done later when you come back.

[BlitzAceRush]

SE has made some pretty costly mistakes over the years, but when they find something that works they will milk that until it runs dry. Currently, FF XIV is their biggest cash cow. FF 7 is a close second since they've been milking that one for almost 25 years. lol

Look forward to many more, depending on how many parts it ends up being, I'm waiting for the "It's so big that it's now 3 separate games when we slot all the parts together."

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

FF7 is a close second since they've been milking that one for almost 25 years. lol

Well...people REALLY like FF:VII
And the people have been asking for a Remake for....YEARS. And even before the remake, people keep playing FF:VII and its other games..
So they should milk it...it just makes sense XD

[Vahlnir]

Well...people REALLY like FF:VII
And the people have been asking for a Remake for....YEARS. And even before the remake, people keep playing FF:VII and its other games..
So they should milk it...it just makes sense XD

Oh, it is without a doubt the smart choice. Some people think it's overhyped and all of that but I disagree. It really was/is a solid game series (it basically is its own series at this point), spinoffs and all. When they announced the remake tears were shed.

[ZedxKayn]

You do get more from your sub: You get to experience content when there is more active community participation and while its difficulty hasn't been nerfed, and you get to do any limited time event if applicable, and you get to keep housing.

Oh wow, I get to play the game and expansion packs I already bought when I pay my sub?

[linayar]

Oh wow, I get to play the game and expansion packs I already bought when I pay my sub?

Well, if you don't pay your sub, you can wait until the next expansion. I believe it comes with 30-day access? So if that's right, you can do all the content then, just with a different experience than doing it patch by patch.

[Nayout]

I believe it comes with 30-day access?.

emmmm... no

[ZedxKayn]

Well, if you don't pay your sub, you can wait until the next expansion. I believe it comes with 30-day access? So if that's right, you can do all the content then, just with a different experience than doing it patch by patch.

That's not the point.

I don't think we're getting our money worth of content for what we're spending in subs, at all, especially if on top of that you add retainer and mobile app subs, without mentioning cash-shop-only cosmetics.
SE milks XIV while giving us back as little as they can afford and it's very much worth criticizing, not trying to rationalize.