Criticism of Shadowbringers and the hostility there in

[linayar]

Great! Then this game can go buy to play and they can just give us server access!

For what reason? They'd have to earn income to pay for cost elsewhere and people are already mad about the current online store.

I don't see how a subscription has anything to do with schedules.

When you don't want to/cant play, you don't have to pay. You'd still be able to do most contents that were released when you didn't susbscribe.

Because it has nothing to do with it.

Of course it does. It has nothing to do with anything else but the time when you want to have server access.

I didn’t order and buy shadowbringers to play heavensward arr or sb.

Well, that's just not how this game works. Contents from multiple expansions are still usable for various means. The expansions are actual expansions to the game, not their own separate game where you completely leave out contents from previous expansions. Of course, you can limit yourself to playing contents from the current expansion, but that's your own choice to do.

[SturmChurro]

For what reason? They'd have to earn income to pay for cost elsewhere and people are already mad about the current online store.

They would be (and already are) earning income, from people buying the game, expansion, and mogstation 'content', what is the purpose of the sub at that point?

[linayar]

They would be earning income, from people buying the game, expansion, and mogstation 'content', what is the purpose of the sub at that point?

Paying the cost for using the server.

[SturmChurro]

Paying the cost for using the server.

Does the prior income earned not already pay the cost for using the server?

[linayar]

Does the prior income earned not already pay the cost for using the server?

I don't know, but it's also a for-profit company.

[SturmChurro]

I don't know, but it's also a for-profit company.

Could it be that with paying for a sub, there comes an expectation. Not for server access, but rather a constant flow of content. A patch cycle that Yoshida has rigorously tried to maintain, even through Covid?

That without paying for said sub, we wouldn't continue to get a patch cycle as such. Rather, we would see a decline in content?

[linayar]

Could it be that with paying for a sub, there comes an expectation. Not for server access, but rather a constant flow of content. A patch cycle that Yoshida has rigorously tried to maintain, even through Covid?

That without paying for said sub, we wouldn't continue to get a patch cycle as such. Rather, we would see a decline in content?

Well, there is a predictable release cycle of content patch, with some of the main contents of the expansion being known, allowing you to decide when you want to subscribe. Beyond that, the game doesn't advertise any specific content with your subscription, not even with your expansion purchase beyond what they reveal in the fan fest or other official announcements prior to the release of an expansion. So you get raids, alliance raids, dungeons, MSQ, trials, and beast tribes (plus various features specific to the expansion). You know exactly what you're paying for and what you're subscribing for. If you expect something other than that, that's on you.

As for whether we'll get less content if people stop subscribing, guess we'll never know unless it happens.

[ZedxKayn]

When you don't want to/cant play, you don't have to pay. You'd still be able to do most contents that were released when you didn't susbscribe.

Oh, that explains why I need to sub to League of Legends, Left 4 Dead, ESO, Overwatch, etc... when I want to play.

Oh wait.

[linayar]

Oh, that explains why I need to sub to League of Legends, Left 4 Dead, ESO, Overwatch, etc... when I want to play.

Oh wait.

Sorry? Was I speaking about other games? No, I was speaking about FFXIV and what subscription in FFXIV gives you.

[ZedxKayn]

Sorry? Was I speaking about other games? No, I was speaking about FFXIV and what subscription in FFXIV gives you.

And honestly, we should get more from our sub than what we're getting, which is the original argument, and has absolutely nothing to do with schedules.