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  1. #931
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    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    We could stretch to the familiar being the teacher. Kind of the lvl 50 DRK questline in a way. Or do something like the summoner and the living book.
    Would be kind of a stretch tho'
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  2. #932
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    Ah I see.
    Well, most jobs have ties to a military force (hence why there is a lot of soul crystals).
    Black Mages were also an elite military force, Scholars were tactical officers, Ninja are scouts/secret services, Samurai do I even need to explain ?, Bards were supporting rear guards, Machinist is litteraly a new unit in Ishgard's army, Red Mages were what came from the ashes of BLM and WHM when they needed new mages to fight...
    So yeah, a tie to a military force is expected, wether it's a died out one (Scholar, Gunbreakers...) from a past civilisation or an active one (Dragoons, Paladins...)from Thavnair or Sharlayan we shall see.
    Indeed, about the only class that doesn't have an origin with or official ties to a nation's military on the Source is Dancer. Odds are real high that this class comes from an elite military unit belonging to a nation we are about to visit. Thavnair, Sharlayan and Garlemald are the three top contenders. Personally I lean towards Garlemald because the Garlean Army has already shown itself to be fond of both the term Reaper and of death imagery in general.

    Come to think of it, there is a class from a previous Final Fantasy game tied to the Reaper magitek armor. Magitek Elite, Terra Branford's class from Final Fantasy VI; she rode around in that armor and used it in battle. FFVI's promotional artwork often showed her riding around in said armor. She was also a soldier in the Gestahlian Empire which the Garlean Empire is based on. Yoshida even used her to showcase the in-game Reaper magitek armor a few years back.
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  3. #933
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    True that for Dancer all we know (well, haven't done the questline so I may miss stuff) is that it's a martial art for performers to defend themselves with. Might have similar origins to Bard.

    Also yeah, a Terra job could be fun. Though she kind of is a catch all. She can use most magic, melee weapons, any armor type, summons...
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  4. #934
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    True that for Dancer all we know (well, haven't done the questline so I may miss stuff) is that it's a martial art for performers to defend themselves with. Might have similar origins to Bard.

    Also yeah, a Terra job could be fun. Though she kind of is a catch all. She can use most magic, melee weapons, any armor type, summons...
    If they were making a Magitek Elite class most likely they would just simply use the abilities of Garlean elite troops as a base and expand on it. They might already be doing that since in the last two years we have gotten a lot of elite Garlean troops in duties as both allies and enemies. We got Gaius as an allied NPC in duty twice. We got Vitus quo Messalla in the Gunbreaker quest line. Varis yae Galvus in Memoria Misera and Memoria Misera Extreme. It looks like a lot more work has gone into expanding and overhauling the abilities Garlean magitek soldiers then went into Ranjit.
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  5. #935
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
    Indeed, about the only class that doesn't have an origin or official ties to a nation's military on the Source is Dancer. Odds are real high that this class comes from an elite military unit belonging to a nation we are about to visit. Thavnair, Sharlayan and Garlemald are the three top contenders. Personally I lean towards Garlemald because the Garlean Army has already shown itself to be fond of both the term Reaper and of death imagery in general.

    Come to think of it, there is a class from a previous Final Fantasy game tied to the Reaper magitek armor. Magitek Elite, Terra Branford's class from Final Fantasy VI; she rode around in that armor and used it in battle. FFVI's promotional artwork often showed her riding around in said armor. She was also a soldier in the Gestahlian Empire which the Garlean Empire is based on. Yoshida even used her to showcase the in-game Reaper magitek armor a few years back.
    i doubt we will get a job from garlemald since they cant manipulate aether, if anything we would be likely to get a job from ilsabard in general. And Sage has very sharlayan feel to it so its less likely we get another one thats from there.
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  6. #936
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymi64 View Post
    i doubt we will get a job from garlemald since they cant manipulate aether, if anything we would be likely to get a job from ilsabard in general. And Sage has very sharlayan feel to it so its less likely we get another one thats from there.
    Thancred can't manipulate aether either; he still showcased a new job in the Shadowbringers trailer. And some of the Garlean troops we have been encountering in these duties can manipulate aether. Case in point, Vitus quo Messalla from the Gunbreaker duty is a Duskwight Elezen and he showcased several new Garlean gunblade attacks.
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  7. #937
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    I heard that Terra's job title in JP could also translate to Magic Knight. Which makes more sense for her obviously.
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  8. #938
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Speaking of Terra, we don't really have anything in game yet that references Terra/Zidane's trances from FFVI/IX respectively. There's also the broader theme of shapeshifting, if you wanted to reference Vincent from FFVII.
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  9. #939
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Speaking of Terra, we don't really have anything in game yet that references Terra/Zidane's trances from FFVI/IX respectively. There's also the broader theme of shapeshifting, if you wanted to reference Vincent from FFVII.
    My original thought like months ago was that we could get morpher as a job in the game by doing the same thing ranjit does. I believe there is a thread that someone started months ago that had this exact thought as you. I would be way down for morpher if it let us have some cosmetic pet that fights with you that we fuse with. (I like the concept of morpher a lot XD) if I find the thread I'll post it
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  10. #940
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
    I think that a tank will be added the next expansion after Endwalker. They seem to have a pattern to how they are adding classes with the expansions:
    • Dark Knight: Tank
    • Machinist: Ranged DPS
    • Astrologian: Healer
    • Samurai: Melee DPS
    • Red Mage: Caster DPS
    • Gunbreaker: Tank
    • Dancer: Ranged DPS
    • Sage: Healer
    • Grim Reaper Shirt Class: Melee DPS

    If that pattern holds we should be seeing a tank and a caster DPS next expansion after Endwalker.
    The pattern is not what you think it is.

    Heavensward: "Let's add one of everything"
    Stormblood: "We can't balance the tanks and healers we currently have, so we're just going to add DDs."
    Shadowbringers: "The tanks and healers are mad, but we definitely can't balance the healers still, so we'll just add one tank and one DD."
    Endwalker: "The healers are out for blood; we have to add a new healer and we have to find a way to make it work (divide them into regen healers and shield healers)".

    Don't expect another tank or healer any time soon. Maybe, big maybe, they'll make a tank fit into 8.0. There's no way they'd add another as early as 7.0. And this of course assumes that they'll continue to add jobs. Which they could just decide to stop doing as of 7.0 or 8.0.
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