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  1. #921
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aluja89 View Post
    How likely is it that they add another tank as a surprise since it's the last expansion of this story?
    Let's see... Considering what we know... something around Zero.
    They clearly said it was going to be a melee DPS using maiming Armor (dragoon) and there would be 2 jobs this expansion. We already know Sage, the other is the mysterious one.

    However they haven't spent resources to create a job like BLU, those resources are probably going into the job actions.
    But it's not impossible they add a new job like Ninja during the patches but I highly doubt it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
    I think that a tank will be added the next expansion after Endwalker. They seem to have a pattern to how they are adding classes with the expansions:
    I wouldn't rely on a pattern. They add job on what role needs the most a new job.
    Gunbreaker was added to bring balance to tanks and avoid one getting always let down.
    For ShB many expected DNC to be a healer job, but the argument behind making it a ranged is that AST was balancing between shield and regen and there was only 2 rangeds.

    Now as to why they add a 5th melee, probably just so there was another job sharing gear with DRG.
    They also mentionned a lot of the playerbase plays DPS, which is why we got many DPS jobs.
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  2. #922
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    Having a job added post launch would be pretty hype, not gonna lie.
    Especially if it's tied in some event in the MSQ, kind of like Yugiri and the Doman refugee tied in Ninja if I recall.
    Could be a tease for where the story will go for 7.0
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  3. #923
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    Having a job added post launch would be pretty hype, not gonna lie.
    Especially if it's tied in some event in the MSQ, kind of like Yugiri and the Doman refugee tied in Ninja if I recall.
    Could be a tease for where the story will go for 7.0
    They once answered that Ninja took a toll on the development team and said they wouldn't do it anymore...
    Until BLU was created and the limited aspect caused an uproar.

    Next to DNC being ranged, new races limited on the gender, it wasn't a good year for announcements on both sides.
    Which could be the reason why Reaper is heavily hinted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Now as to why they add a 5th melee, probably just so there was another job sharing gear with DRG.
    They also mentionned a lot of the playerbase plays DPS, which is why we got many DPS jobs.
    About this - IF I remember well - they added a 5th Melee because they divided DPS Jobs as the ones which do damage in Melee range and the ones which do damage from Distance (for how to choose which category to add on the DPS party).
    Meaning that they had 4 Melee Jobs and 6 "Ranged" Jobs.
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  5. #925
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    They once answered that Ninja took a toll on the development team and said they wouldn't do it anymore...
    Until BLU was created and the limited aspect caused an uproar.

    Next to DNC being ranged, new races limited on the gender, it wasn't a good year for announcements on both sides.
    Which could be the reason why Reaper is heavily hinted.
    I'm not sure how "Reaper" by itself would be hyping, not like it's a job with some history or implication behind it like DRK etc. It can be very cool and have a great lore of course. But on a pure "announcement effect" Reaper is pretty..."meh".
    Unless you cater to the pure edge factor and all.
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  6. #926
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I wouldn't rely on a pattern. They add job on what role needs the most a new job.
    Gunbreaker was added to bring balance to tanks and avoid one getting always let down.
    For ShB many expected DNC to be a healer job, but the argument behind making it a ranged is that AST was balancing between shield and regen and there was only 2 rangeds.

    Now as to why they add a 5th melee, probably just so there was another job sharing gear with DRG.
    They also mentionned a lot of the playerbase plays DPS, which is why we got many DPS jobs.

    At the same time the dev team is quite fond of predictable patterns when it comes to adding content so we will see.

    Anyway, I just remembered that the word hussar is already on maiming gear in the game. Kind of interesting that we have maiming gear that references real world cavalry units that were fond of death imagery while the only other two classes that use maiming gear (lancer, dragoon) are also named after real world cavalry units.








    And Hussar is also a doublet of Corsair, meaning it also shares the same Latin root word.
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  7. #927
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl0217 View Post
    At the same time the dev team is quite fond of predictable patterns when it comes to adding content so we will see.

    Anyway, I just remembered that the word hussar is already on maiming gear in the game. Kind of interesting that we have maiming gear that references real world cavalry units that were fond of death imagery while the only other two classes that use maiming gear (lancer, dragoon) are also named after real world cavalry units.








    And Hussar is also a doublet of Corsair, meaning it also shares the same Latin root word.
    Kind of doubt we'd get a mounted class. Not sure what this could lead to either.
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  8. #928
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    Kind of doubt we'd get a mounted class. Not sure what this could lead to either.
    It is not going to be a mounted class anymore then lancer and dragoon are mounted classes. Lancer and dragoon are both named after types of real world cavalry units and they are not mounted. I am just saying the naming convention matches the other classes that use maiming gear (named after types of cavalry), it is a name already on maiming gear in the game and hussar units in the real world were fond of death imagery.
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    Ah I see.
    Well, most jobs have ties to a military force (hence why there is a lot of soul crystals).
    Black Mages were also an elite military force, Scholars were tactical officers, Ninja are scouts/secret services, Samurai do I even need to explain ?, Bards were supporting rear guards, Machinist is litteraly a new unit in Ishgard's army, Red Mages were what came from the ashes of BLM and WHM when they needed new mages to fight...
    So yeah, a tie to a military force is expected, wether it's a died out one (Scholar, Gunbreakers...) from a past civilisation or an active one (Dragoons, Paladins...)from Thavnair or Sharlayan we shall see.
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  10. #930
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    It's the whole thing, jobs are indeed based on a military elite.
    We know Ran'jit was a military man and his father was also a soldier with the same kind of pet.

    But a job based on Norvrandt culture with only Golbez and his shadow dragon as a previous existing "job"?
    Best would be a frontline unit from Sharlaya using heavy armors which would be rune knight.

    A Reaper needs a mentor just to give the quest, or at the minimum a quest giver. So it has to be a job that isn't unique to the WoL.
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