Criticism of Shadowbringers and the hostility there in

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I think the main issue with Bozja and Eureka is the hard truth that SE just thinks fates make for good content. The CEs are a huge step above Eurekas mob grind to prep fates, but it's still just a fate grind to make it to the CE to grind fates to make it to the CE to grind fates..

But Fates are just world events with music and a circle. I really never understood WHY people hate them.

[LisSquid]

But Fates are just world events with music and a circle. I really never understood WHY people hate them.

That's exactly why people hate them. It's rinse repeat of the same ol' same ol' we have seen since ARR.

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CEs are actually very fun, and a HUGE improvement from Eureka. What do I do in Bozja, then? I literally hang out at the first plaza for CEs to pop. Thats what I do. A lot of waiting around to do content that is fun. Which seems counter intuitive to the design of the zone, but it is what it is. I have no desire to do ARR content (fates, where you just mindlessly AOE) in the year 2021.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

That's exactly why people hate them. It's rinse repeat of the same ol' same ol' we have seen since ARR.

You can say that about literally every piece of content that exists though.

[strawberrycake]

You can say that about literally every piece of content that exists though.

ANd thats why you should want the game to be updated on its infrastructure, so the devs can no longer make content in its current stagnated state, and have more freedoms. Thats why we should embrace change and the game being something different going forward. Change isnt scary, all things must change to not stagnate like it has this expansion.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

ANd thats why you should want the game to be updated on its infrastructure, so the devs can no longer make content in its current stagnated state, and have more freedoms. Thats why we should embrace change and the game being something different going forward. Change isnt scary, all things must change to not stagnate like it has this expansion.

Sorry, I enjoy it the way it is. And that's fine. You don't. That's also fine. But don't act like the game is going to die.

There have been threads saying the game is dying since August 2013.


I like when they add new things and change stuff up, but I don't want a completely different game. If I did I wouldn't play this one.

[strawberrycake]

Sorry, I enjoy it the way it is. And that's fine. You don't. That's also fine. But don't act like the game is going to die.

There have been threads saying the game is dying since August 2013.

I dont think I've ever said it would die outright, but I certainly don't think it will last another 10 years in this state, FF11 is still here, thats not death. I would rather not see XIV be quietly put into maint mode without the dev team and the game reaching its potential is all.

Also building upon existing and gutted systems is a form of change, its no longer what it was, but something better, that is the change I want to see. All the while maintainig is distinct FFXIV flavor as it is.

[LisSquid]

You can say that about literally every piece of content that exists though.

I'm not sure what side you're on here. Are you alright with stagnation or are you wanting SE to expand on their game design? I'd say doing HW dungeons are more engaging than fates. At least you're not sitting there spamming aoes to fill a bar to move onto the next fate to spam aoes to fill a bar to move onto the next fate to spam aoes to fill a bar...