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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPete View Post
    And what's the source?
    Nothing in the announcement in February mentioned "buffing party members attacks" in fact it said "augmenting their own attacks".
    The article also says "floating daggers" (they're called Nouliths and are nothing like daggers) and "doesn't have a stun" (which is something nobody can know yet). So yeah, that article is bogus.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPete View Post
    They said the same thing. Sage will buff teammates. How they know though? Or are they just guessing.
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    Error 3102 Club, Order of the 52nd Hour

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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    To be fair, I never liked Noct. If I was ever paired with a WHM I'd ask if I could swap to Scholar.
    I'd just go Diurnal.

    It surprises me how many AST's firmly believe they must go Noct when they're paired with a WHM. When I play WHM and get an AST co-heal I'd say maybe 1 in 8 goes Diurnal. Outside of Savage prog at minimum ilv, Noct just isn't necessary. Diurnal has far more heal power and your regens all stack with WHM.

    I dislike Noct too. The main thing that bothers me, similar to SCH, is how you aren't actually a pure shield healer, your aoe shields are a sort of weak heal + weak shield combination. If you don't need the shield, this is straight up less potency than regens. If you do need the shield, you're often wasting the heal component to prep it in advance, so a GCD for a pathetic 250 potency worth. This is why I go straight back to Diurnal as soon as gear allows me to. With 10% mitigation available every minute and shields every 2 minutes you can cover a lot of danger mechanics anyway.
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  4. #44
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    Akimori's Avatar
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    Mihovil Jollasch
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkevorkhat View Post
    That sounds significantly too reasonable and interesting for it to be the actual answer.
    The devs rarely ever rework something and leave it at the same or higher complexity, every rework I've seen thus far has made the job being reworked simpler and easier to play.
    MCH lost the whole loading system, and their procs got ripped out. AST lost the road, and all the cards got turned into the Balance. BRD lost cast times. MNK lost Greased Lightning. NIN lost a bunch of their kit, etc.
    To be completely fair...cast times on BRD and MCH when they are suppose to be the physical range classes that basically got free range of an entire arena was pretty asinine to begin with
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  5. #45
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    I'd just go Diurnal.

    It surprises me how many AST's firmly believe they must go Noct when they're paired with a WHM. When I play WHM and get an AST co-heal I'd say maybe 1 in 8 goes Diurnal. Outside of Savage prog at minimum ilv, Noct just isn't necessary. Diurnal has far more heal power and your regens all stack with WHM.

    I dislike Noct too. The main thing that bothers me, similar to SCH, is how you aren't actually a pure shield healer, your aoe shields are a sort of weak heal + weak shield combination. If you don't need the shield, this is straight up less potency than regens. If you do need the shield, you're often wasting the heal component to prep it in advance, so a GCD for a pathetic 250 potency worth. This is why I go straight back to Diurnal as soon as gear allows me to. With 10% mitigation available every minute and shields every 2 minutes you can cover a lot of danger mechanics anyway.
    Pretty much this. Arguably ASTs strongest shield/mitigation skills are available in Diurnal in Unconscious and Intersection.
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  6. #46
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akimori View Post
    To be completely fair...cast times on BRD and MCH when they are suppose to be the physical range classes that basically got free range of an entire arena was pretty asinine to begin with
    Also, the game is getting progressively more complex and convoluted, as more content and depth is added to the game, something else has to give. The ShB reworks were a 'reset' of sorts to make room for further development.
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    Vice Shark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Also, the game is getting progressively more complex and convoluted, as more content and depth is added to the game, something else has to give. The ShB reworks were a 'reset' of sorts to make room for further development.
    Since we're talking jobs here...I'm hoping you're referring to, well, practically anything else about the game. At best, might be like, 2-3 jobs that are complex. The rest are simple and straightforward; a complaint that's been brought up numerous times because the game's simplicity doesn't allow for much complexity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Raikai's Avatar
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    Interesting... I didn't notice that. I wonder if Sage is going to be a healer without significant party utility like WHM, to create a parallel. While AST and SCH being more support-focused.
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Interesting... I didn't notice that. I wonder if Sage is going to be a healer without significant party utility like WHM, to create a parallel. While AST and SCH being more support-focused.
    Scholar being more support focused would be nice. It would fit lore wise with it being a type of strategist class. Much like how it used to be back in ARR.
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    Eristede Kell
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    To be fair, I never liked Noct. If I was ever paired with a WHM I'd ask if I could swap to Scholar. Diurnal performs very well. It has good potency and the regens work with our lack of oGCD heals (in comparison to the others), but Noct has felt like Great Value Scholar for a very long time.

    As an AST main, this image sums up my feelings perfectly.

    QFT This guy gets it.
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