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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    Because it's one shack per person, not one for the whole populace. It's easy enough as it's postulated, it's unnecessary to make it even easier.
    It's not "easy enough as it's postulated," nor is it "unnecessary to make it even easier." Please explain to me how it's easier to walk to the nearest mini-hamlet to log out, than it is to return to the city. Please explain how this makes the game super easy button and would ruin the game and just make everything easy.

    I'm not seeing it. It is a very small convenience, and it MAKES SENSE for a place that is actually called an "inn." I already proposed having a slower rate of rest bonus gain there. That would make it HARDER BUTTON, instead of easier button. It only serves as a minor convinence if you'd really rather not return to the city for whatever reason AND ON TOP OF THAT just HAPPEN to be near one of these places. Take a look at your map, and tell me if it would really be so "easy" to utilize these locations for this purpose.

    If you really think the game would suddenly be so super easy by having inns outside of major cities, than the innkeeper can charge a gil fee. Does that make you happy? The game needs more gil sinks after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It's not "easy enough as it's postulated," nor is it "unnecessary to make it even easier." Please explain to me how it's easier to walk to the nearest mini-hamlet to log out, than it is to return to the city. Please explain how this makes the game super easy button and would ruin the game and just make everything easy.

    I'm not seeing it. It is a very small convenience, and it MAKES SENSE for a place that is actually called an "inn." I already proposed having a slower rate of rest bonus gain there. That would make it HARDER BUTTON, instead of easier button. It only serves as a minor convinence if you'd really rather not return to the city for whatever reason AND ON TOP OF THAT just HAPPEN to be near one of these places. Take a look at your map, and tell me if it would really be so "easy" to utilize these locations for this purpose.
    You never said Hamlets. I thought you didn't know what an Aetheryte Camp was called. That's actually not a huge convenience and sounds mildly amusing. Write clearly next time.

    Before you run and edit it, this is what you had written:

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    E.g., the inns and other small buildings added in the past which have repair/merchant NPCs. I think it would be reasonable to be able to aquire rest bonus logging out in locations like this so you don't necessarily have to return to the city every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    You never said Hamlets. I thought you didn't know what an Aetheryte Camp was called. That's actually not a huge convenience and sounds mildly amusing. Write clearly next time.
    If I meant aetheryte camps, I would have said aetheryte camps. These places aren't called hamlets, either, those are the places like The Golden Bazaar et. al.

    I'm referring to the small buildings that were added several updates ago, like Red Rooster Stead.

    I've updated the original post, so hopefully some of the hate will dissipate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    If I meant aetheryte camps, I would have said aetheryte camps. These places aren't called hamlets, either, those are the places like The Golden Bazaar et. al.

    I'm referring to the small buildings that were added several updates ago, like Red Rooster Stead.

    I've updated the original post, so hopefully some of the hate will dissipate.
    I don't know who you are and I never assume people know what they're talking about, sometimes to my detriment. But seriously, please be clearer next time. That was really vague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    I don't know who you are and I never assume people know what they're talking about, sometimes to my detriment. But seriously, please be clearer next time. That was really vague.
    Well, it would be a lot better if you didn't assume people DON'T know what they're talking about. It's better not to assume anything at all. I'm not sure why you felt the need to preserve a paragraph from my post just in case I edited it. Shouldn't it be a good thing for me to edit my post to be more clear?

    It's because you can only rest in an Inn.
    You know, some of these places that I'm referring to actually ARE inns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Well, it would be a lot better if you didn't assume people DON'T know what they're talking about. It's better not to assume anything at all. I'm not sure why you felt the need to preserve a paragraph from my post just in case I edited it. Shouldn't it be a good thing for me to edit my post to be more clear?
    I said it was sometimes to my detriment. It's just something I do. I tutor a lot and I have to start from the ground up. And these forums aren't really replete with people that know what they're talking about. It's a habit I have to shake off every once in a while.

    Regardless, you won me. I would make their availability slightly more scarce than there are these outposts, but I would not be opposed to the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You know, some of these places that I'm referring to actually ARE inns.
    Yeah, but some of those quest hubs are not Inns.
    I would have more plans for the quest hubs though. Protect from the kobolds who steal the fruits, Amalj'aans invading the water pumps in Ul'dah,... As a reward the locals will give you food and if you report back to your GC you'll receive some company seals.

    Or like other games do, when you stay near those you gain some bonuses on attack, defense, speed, HPs,... after paying some money for the service they offer.
    Yeah I know, it's a little off-topic, but if you have Inns in the city, just go there and sleep there, no problem, rite?
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    The outposts don't have Inns and I don't want to sleep in a shed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    The outposts don't have Inns and I don't want to sleep in a shed.
    The outposts ARE inns. They're the size of a shed, to be sure, but "The Coffer and Coffin" and "The Red Rooster Stead" are both literally described as inns.

    all it would be is you talk to the NPC, pay a fee, and log out in close proximity to the site.

    In real life, inns and motels are all over the place, not just in cities. I find it amazing that anyone finds this to be a big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    The outposts ARE inns. They're the size of a shed, to be sure, but "The Coffer and Coffin" and "The Red Rooster Stead" are both literally described as inns.

    all it would be is you talk to the NPC, pay a fee, and log out in close proximity to the site.

    In real life, inns and motels are all over the place, not just in cities. I find it amazing that anyone finds this to be a big deal.
    I find it amazing that you don't consider it at all illogical that what you yourself describe as "the size of a shed" would be sufficient for any number of people to sleep/rest in feasibly.

    You note standing near it... but then that goes back to what I said in my last post. It makes no sense to say you're getting rest when you're standing or at best, sitting, amongst a bunch of other people milling about, chocobos and goobues stomping around, people engaged in battle nearby, inclement weather, and all that goes with being out in the open.

    It's always funny how people will selectively apply logic to their arguments where it suits them, but then dismiss it where it doesn't. You argue quite sternly that "Inn" must mean "a place to rest"; seriously relying on semantics to carry your argument. But then, in the next breath, you ignore or dismiss the extremely unlikely nature of the scenario you put forth of people resting by "standing near a small shed", amongst all the ruckus I describe above.

    Again, this suggestion seems to me to be made entirely in the name of convenience; for someone to have what they want where and when they want it. It's not addressing any "problem" that needs solving. It's purely a case of "SE should do more so I can do less".

    Why is it a big deal to spend a few moments to Return to a city Inn and log out, then teleport back out to an aetheryte camp? If it's a camp you intend to spend a lot of time at, register it as a favored location and voila.. only 2 or 3 points to get there. Problem solved.
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