Can we please get rid of the 1-map-per-inventory restriction?

[Eien713]

The focused loot was exclusive mats and rare minions just as they are now. The mats were selling for 100s of thousands and the Bluebird and Nutkins went for multiple millions and this was at a time when 1 million gil was worth a lot more than currently.

Were these the ARR maps or the HW maps? I could've sworn that maps were originally ones you do by yourself and their loot wasn't exactly stellar.

They are still intended as a daily activity and not meant to stockpiled, the fact that players have found ways to stockpile rather than doing them isn't a reason to make them unlimited.

Unlimited? No. The timer will still be there.
It's just that people don't always have the time to play every day or can gather groups daily for maps, so it's more convenient to gather your maps day by day and then do them in the weekends (for example) as a group or FC event/activity.

[Shibi]

It's just that people don't always have the time to play every day or can gather groups daily for maps, so it's more convenient to gather your maps day by day and then do them in the weekends (for example) as a group or FC event/activity.

5 can be held by anyone can't they?

One in each of your 2 free retainers;
One in your chocosaddle bag;
One deciphered map;
One in your inventory;

[Eien713]

5 can be held by anyone can't they?

One in each of your 2 free retainers;
One in your chocosaddle bag;
One deciphered map;
One in your inventory;

Yes, I know this. But, again, portals aren't guaranteed and when they do pop up, they rely on RNG. And sometimes not everyone has 5 maps, but you just wanna have fun together doing maps as a group of friends or an FC group. So it would help in this case if people can have more than 5 maps to compensate for those who don't have many maps on them.

We can spend eternity going back and forth on this matter. My point is that since it's possible to bypass the restriction anyway, why not make the lives of players a bit easier. If this affects the game very negatively in a way that I couldn't foresee or think of, I'm ok with things remaining the way they are, no matter how inconvenient they might be.

[linayar]

My point is that since it's possible to bypass the restriction anyway...

The restriction has not been bypassed as it's about limiting how many you have per inventory type, not how many you have total.

Like I said, I believe the idea is about sharing. Even if only one person has all the maps, unless that person wants to go to the mail/retainers several times, they may distribute it to the rest of the party for convenience so that each member can have a chance to be the map owner.

And as for the economy, this also limits how many you can sell at one time, which has the benefit of letting different people get a chance at some easy profit.

[Eien713]

The restriction has not been bypassed as it's about limiting how many you have per inventory type, not how many you have total.

Like I said, I believe the idea is about sharing. Even if only one person has all the maps, unless that person wants to go to the mail/retainers several times, they may distribute it to the rest of the party for convenience so that each member can have a chance to be the map owner.

And as for the economy, this also limits how many you can sell at one time, which has the benefit of letting different people get a chance at some easy profit.

The limitation has been bypassed since the main issue people care about (I presume) is how many maps in total you can have/store/farm.

Anyway, maybe I'm missing something, but I don't get the point of forcing people to share their maps. Everyone can collect maps, so why are we encouraging people to be lazy and then leech off others and get their maps? I should also mention that I'm of the opinion that when people run maps together, they should all be allowed to roll need unless the map owner really wants a certain item and thus the others should pass. Also, I'm all for keeping the restriction of selling 1 map per retainer. I have no issue with that.

[linayar]

The limitation has been bypassed since the main issue people care about (I presume) is how many maps in total you can have/store/farm.

"Bypassed" implies you got around a restriction that the devs want to put on you. If the amount you can have is a problem, they would have added more restriction.

Anyway, maybe I'm missing something, but I don't get the point of forcing people to share their maps. Everyone can collect maps, so why are we encouraging people to be lazy and then leech off others and get their maps? I should also mention that I'm of the opinion that when people run maps together, they should all be allowed to roll need unless the map owner really wants a certain item and thus the others should pass. Also, I'm all for keeping the restriction of selling 1 map per retainer. I have no issue with that.

Because it allows for easier grouping. Not everyone has to be a gatherer. Not everyone has to spend gil. They also probably don't need to unlock the map feature unless they want to use a map.

I also agree on FFA, but the limitation is not about rolling on loot, but by being a map "owner," you can have the experience of choosing a door, playing the minigame, rolling on the wheel, etc. It's about sharing the fun.

[Eien713]

I also agree on FFA, but the limitation is not about rolling on loot, but by being a map "owner," you can have the experience of choosing a door, playing the minigame, rolling on the wheel, etc. It's about sharing the fun.

Ah, I see your point there.

[Shibi]

Yes, I know this. But, again, portals aren't guaranteed and when they do pop up, they rely on RNG. And sometimes not everyone has 5 maps, but you just wanna have fun together doing maps as a group of friends or an FC group. So it would help in this case if people can have more than 5 maps to compensate for those who don't have many maps on them.

We can spend eternity going back and forth on this matter. My point is that since it's possible to bypass the restriction anyway, why not make the lives of players a bit easier. If this affects the game very negatively in a way that I couldn't foresee or think of, I'm ok with things remaining the way they are, no matter how inconvenient they might be.

I gather then it's yes? I wasn't sure - hence the question mark to verify if my thoughts were correct!

[Eien713]

I gather then it's yes? I wasn't sure - hence the question mark to verify if my thoughts were correct!

You mean for the number of maps? Yeah, it's 5 max and like you stated. I also wanna mention that after I had filled up those slots, I so hate having to refrain from gathering a map just because I don't have where to store it. It feels like such a waste (T_T).

[Ultimatecalibur]

Were these the ARR maps or the HW maps? I could've sworn that maps were originally ones you do by yourself and their loot wasn't exactly stellar.

ARR Timeworn Peistiskin Maps were the original level 50 full party maps introduced in 2.1 and dropped:

• the Bluebird minion,
• Chinchilla Hide (Glacial Coat and Boots)
• Blue Fox Hide (Highland Barding, Boots, Mitts, Smock and Hood)
• Dress Material (Spring Dress, Skirt and Dress Shoes with Plain Long Skirt added in 2.4) added in 2.2.

The ARR level 50 solo Timeworn Boarskin maps had:

• Mariner Cotton Cloth (Sailor Shirt, Brais and Deck Shoes)
• the Wind-up Tonberry Minion.

2.3 added the level 50 solo Unhidden Leather Maps to the map reward pool with:

• all the existing rare map mats
• the Nutkin minion
• Polarized Glass (Shaded Spectacles and Minstrel's Spectacles(2.4))
• Mist Silk (Crescent Moon Nightgown, Nightcap, Cone, Bottoms and Slippers)
• Imitation Mistbeard Mask (2.4)
• Imperial Shadow Visor (2.4, Polarized Glass is a possible Desynth)
• Spriggan Hat (2.45?)