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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinMalvin View Post
    Road to hell is paved with good intentions, you know. Especially if the intent is based on ignorance and false understanding.

    You're not a mentor, never been in NN, so what makes you qualified to make grand claim that the removal would erase this and 'other' issues? What 'other issues' anyway? Were you even there before they implemented mentorship that you can confidently claim that mentorship is the source of the plague?
    I am not a mentor currently. I have principles, so I dumped my crown and mentorship as soon as I saw just how toxic it is, years ago. I have been in the NN, and saw it for the mess it was. Mentors kicking people over disagreements, using it as an exclusive general chat, ignoring new players to talk about random topics. I know for a fact the game would be better off without it, at least without an overhaul - specifically the removal of the mentor program.

    In addition, this whole problem, the problem in this thread, looks to be a disgruntled player. Someone who is specifically targeting mentors and the Novice Network. Removal of the NN would no doubt solve this issue.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 04-28-2021 at 11:52 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I am not a mentor currently. I have principles, so I dumped my crown and mentorship as soon as I saw just how toxic it is, years ago. I have been in the NN, and saw it for the mess it was. Mentors kicking people over disagreements, using it as an exclusive general chat, ignoring new players to talk about random topics. I know for a fact the game would be better off without it, at least without an overhaul - specifically the removal of the mentor program.

    In addition, this whole problem, the problem in this thread, looks to be a disgruntled player. Someone who is specifically targeting mentors and the Novice Network. Removal of the NN would no doubt solve this issue.
    Maybe it's like that on Excalibur, but from personal experience, it's not like that on Midgardsormr, Goblin or Malboro.
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    I give up with you people. Forum community is absolutely unhinged. Imagine joining my alt's FC just to wait for me to come online to harass me lmao.

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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I am not a mentor currently. I have principles, so I dumped my crown and mentorship as soon as I saw just how toxic it is, years ago. I have been in the NN, and saw it for the mess it was. Mentors kicking people over disagreements, using it as an exclusive general chat, ignoring new players to talk about random topics. I know for a fact the game would be better off without it, at least without an overhaul - specifically the removal of the mentor program.

    In addition, this whole problem, the problem in this thread, looks to be a disgruntled player. Someone who is specifically targeting mentors and the Novice Network. Removal of the NN would no doubt solve this issue.
    So, despite it being years since you saw these things in on NN, you believe that every NN functions this way. I've got principles, yet I still stick around my NN to help people if I'm able. Is the mentor system flawed? Yes, very much so. But I don't think it's right to go nuclear on the entire thing when it actually does do some good. Maybe not everywhere, but enough to matter. I'm always open to improving the system, but I've seen first hand how great it can be, and I have also seen the other side of that as well. Still, you cannot give an accurate assessment of the current situation if you haven't actually dealt with it in years. I'd recommend server hopping and seeing what various servers have to offer. Basically saying "Excalibur's NN sucked years ago, therefore the entire system needs to go" isn't really doing you any favors here. In fairness, I used to have a similar mentality after dealing with my server's NN (also years ago), but when I returned to it after getting my Mentor status again...it was a completely different experience and still is. I'm proud to be a mentor in my NN. It says a lot when a Mentor in a flawed system is actually proud of something. lol
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 04-28-2021 at 12:57 PM.
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