Revelations from Patch 5.5 (Part 1)

[KageTokage]

I do kind of wish we had more choices like those presented in the 5.3 MSQ where you get choose who visits you to discuss the whole Ardbert situation.

I wouldn't mind them taking it a step further and, say, getting to choose which of the Scions helps you in a MSQ duty or something like that.

[BlitzAceRush]

I do kind of wish we had more choices like those presented in the 5.3 MSQ where you get choose who visits you to discuss the whole Ardbert situation.

I wouldn't mind them taking it a step further and, say, getting to choose which of the Scions helps you in a MSQ duty or something like that.

I could see this being more a thing 6.1 onwards, when the fate of the world isn't always at stake, they could do more stuff where it's more about us being an adventure and exploring, kind of like 4.1, keep it unvoiced and they could have us decided who we bring, obviously they'll still be need of the WoL, then have the Scion's convene when a threat emerges, then back to exploring and charting forgotten lands with your preferred companions.

Edit: Though it really all depends, though they have said they want to shift over to more one off stories as opposed to having the long drawn out narrative of Hydaelyn and Zodiark and the Ascians, we've kind of already had that with the Dragonsong War, The liberation of Doma and Ala Mhigo. So even without an overacting plot, the rigidity of the story may not change, we'll just have to wait and see.

[EirolOcarrol]

TeN ChaRacTeRS

Summoning primals is bad for the land in general and neither Hydy or Zodiark should've been summoned; regardless of where their intentions fall on the benevolence scale, another solution would've been better. I think Azem knew this, or at least suspected it; perhaps from getting out and about and seeing how things are they were able to discern something that gave rise to their suspicion.

Frankly, H & Z are a result of a group of people failing in their overall duty by not doing due diligence in a timely fashion. Pretty sure if both H & Z want to save the world(star)/its peoples, they both would realise how destabilising they themselves are. Perhaps that's why Hydy's touch is incredibly light (no pun). She still has a directive to protect the inhabitants of the star and all the shards thereof, but knows she's also incredibly bad for it at the same time, and yet still she can't self-delete (if she can do that at all) because the safety of the star is still not assured. I imagine that to be torturous - to love your "kids", but know you're killing them by simply existing, but can't delete self because of others trying to kill your kids. A hibernation of sorts may be all she can do whilst fighting her directives, with the bare minimum to ensure kid safety. I think Zodiark would likely be of a similar bent. Or rather, I personally choose to believe he could easily be as benevolent as she, just with different directives and unfortunate (to say the least) consequences to those who summoned him and all who believed in them. My jury is still out on how much tempering Hydy does, but I find it difficult to believe she doesn't do it. I can't be comfortable with that. Any messing with free will for any reason isn't something I can acquiesce to.

My hope is we can somehow unite H & Z in a concordance without negative repercussions - I know tempering can effectively be cured at this point, but these two are the big ones, so to speak. Either reunite them in peaceful accordance, thus retaining a protection for the future, or dispense with both of them - which they would agree to, but still fight against, per programming. I'd really rather the former because all the death is just too much; I'd rather use words and diplomacy much more often, but I don't think that'd work here. I will be preparing cake and grief counselling in advance regardless. Seems prudent.

So to conclude, I don't think either H or Z are villains in and of themselves, and it's all a horrible mess and there will be cake. And I mean, I will legitimately bake a cake for the expansion finale. My whole family's going to need it.

Whatever way it pans out, it's ultimately a caution in sitting by and thinking things don't truly matter if they happen somewhere else to someone else, then becoming overwrought with fear when the error is realised.

I don't believe the heretical Garlean propaganda.

Our Goddess is sacred, pure and holy.
Sancta Hydaelyn
Adveniat regnum tuum.
Fiat voluntas tua,
sicut in caelo et in terra.
Gloria Mater
Amen

[KizuyaKatogami]

I don't believe the heretical Garlean propaganda.

Our Goddess is sacred, pure and holy.
Sancta Hydaelyn
Adveniat regnum tuum.
Fiat voluntas tua,
sicut in caelo et in terra.
Gloria Mater
Amen

You need Zodiark.

[EirolOcarrol]

You need Zodiark.

Et ne nos inducas in tentationem,
sed libera nos a Zodiark.

[Ceridwenae]

I don't believe the heretical Garlean propaganda.

Our Goddess is sacred, pure and holy.
Sancta Hydaelyn
Adveniat regnum tuum.
Fiat voluntas tua,
sicut in caelo et in terra.
Gloria Mater
Amen

Um... okay. Don't run with scissors, mate.

[Kesey]

I don't believe the heretical Garlean propaganda.

Our Goddess is sacred, pure and holy.
Sancta Hydaelyn
Adveniat regnum tuum.
Fiat voluntas tua,
sicut in caelo et in terra.
Gloria Mater
Amen

And what will you do if, at the end, she tells you she is bad for the planet and you have to destroy her too?

In that case she stays your scared, pure, and holy goddess but still needs to go.

[Rosenstrauch]

I think, when it comes to Hydaelyn, we might end up seeing something akin to Breath of Fire 3's Myria: An apparently benevolent goddess who is wholeheartedly sincere in her behavior, yet nevertheless has to go because her very existence is holding the world back in some fashion.



Anyways, week three of the dwarf stuff, and my post on the front page has been updated. An answer has been provided but, frankly, it's sunk in now just how disappointing getting the answers for what the hell even happened in a letter after all the principle actors have left the stage really is.

[Fenral]

Week three and I realize I completely forgot about doing week two.

[Wyssahtyn]

ten characters

Wasn't the Nier crap meant to have disappeared at the end of Tower? How are we salvaging materials from the factory and satellite?