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    You're all insane if you didn't like the Nier Raid. I thought it was awesome compared to the last 24 man which was so damn dry. Not once did I have issue with Nier and the world, mostly because it happened in the first and not in the Source. I don't think there couldn't have been a perfect time for a cross over raid like this and you didn't have to do it btw, you could have skipped it and done the Bozjan 24 mans since they seem more appropriate for that kind of player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaperking386 View Post
    You're all insane if you didn't like the Nier Raid.
    Idk, I wouldn't exactly call it insane if you don't immediately drool over "here are 3 alliance raids spanning 2 years, from a completely unrelated game you may or may not like, with no rime or reason."



    Quote Originally Posted by Reaperking386 View Post
    I thought it was awesome compared to the last 24 man which was so damn dry.
    That's good for you, I for example am the exact opposite. The environment looks bland, the fights might be a visual spectacle but that's about it and the story is the most barebones I've seen in a long time with not even an attempt to have it make sense within the setting.



    Quote Originally Posted by Reaperking386 View Post
    Not once did I have issue with Nier and the world, mostly because it happened in the first and not in the Source.
    Just because it happens in the first doesn't mean you can just ignore the established logic in your made-up fantasy world. The first also has it's own set of rules and it's own history, none of which include "advanced robots from a different universe."



    Quote Originally Posted by Reaperking386 View Post
    I don't think there couldn't have been a perfect time for a cross over raid like this
    There probably is no perfect time to use a completely unrelated setting for main expansion content.



    Quote Originally Posted by Reaperking386 View Post
    and you didn't have to do it btw, you could have skipped it and done the Bozjan 24 mans since they seem more appropriate for that kind of player.
    Not a very good argument when Alliance raids are considered main content. They provide relevant gear upgrades when they're initially released and upgrade materials for the current tomestone gear, you know, the gear that about 99% of the players use. Up until now they always atleast tried to have the raids included in XIV's world and lore, to have them somewhat make sense within the setting.

    Bozja on the other hand is actual optional side content, which, despite being completely optional, is not only better integrated into XIV's lore but also has a story that makes sense without external knowledge and doesn't ignore the universe's established rules. I'm definitely not a fan of Eureka 2.0 but it did a better job at making sense than the NieR raids did.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 04-27-2021 at 09:11 PM.