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  1. #71
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    StormyFae's Avatar
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    Serena Nisomusui
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seera1024 View Post
    The game is rated T for Teen.

    Meaning teenagers.

    Last time I checked people between the ages of 13 and 17 are teenagers and minors. Meaning minors are allowed to play this game.

    Are you really advocating that people give strangers their real life physical address?! That's like one of the things most people know not to do because of safety. You never know who the other person is on the other side. What if they have stalker tendencies and attach to you? They then have your physical address and can stalk you in real life.

    Also, that gives out players real names and DOB's. Two key pieces of information many places include in verifying one's identity. That's also a major security risk if you give that information out. One should not be advocating that.

    Also still does not counter the fact that it's against the TOS. The TOS's comments regarding the type of content ERP is only forbids the player from engaging in such behavior. SE is allowed to do so as they know to what extent they can push the boundaries and maintain the age rating should they choose to do so.
    I never said adresses discord chat picture with dob card and face near it thats how we prove we are over 18 lol ive dine multiple places its perfectly safe.

    What ur asked is to come cover up all but the pic and dob then take then pic or urself to prove u are u and 18+..
    Perfectly safe

    Also the ToS negates itself with the things in the game outfit 2 fetish races
    When the games content has things ToS doesnt approve of they lose all rights to enforce that code line. Doing so is the definition of hypocrite
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    Last edited by StormyFae; 04-27-2021 at 12:59 PM.

  2. #72
    Player Caurcas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormyFae View Post
    Also the ToS negates itself with the things in the game outfit 2 fetish races
    Lulwut? I don't think you know how a ToS works.
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  3. #73
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    I don't think people should really be showing their ID over Discord in any capacity really. Certainly not doing activities that would even "require" them to do so either.

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  4. #74
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    Chymea Sum
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormyFae View Post
    I never said adresses discord chat picture with dob card and face near it thats how we prove we are over 18 lol ive dine multiple places its perfectly safe.

    What ur asked is to come cover up all but the pic and dob then take then pic or urself to prove u are u and 18+..
    Perfectly safe

    Also the ToS negates itself with the things in the game outfit 2 fetish races
    When the games content has things ToS doesnt approve of they lose all rights to enforce that code line. Doing so is the definition of hypocrite
    And for 99% of players in the US, the ID will be one that includes their address. For our driver's license includes our address.

    And like I said, SE is allowed to do things that would violate the TOS if we did it. Because they know how far they can push "sexual themes" and remain rated T. We players do not.

    The TOS only mentions that players can't do anything sexual in game. SE is not a player.

    Also, Discord is outside of the game and therefore SE would not be able to rely on such a feature to be able to prevent adult and minor ERP from happening. Because they can't be sure that all players who engage in such would use such software SE can only operate within the bounds of the game itself. Therefore any form of proving one's age that does not involve the game itself would not be something that could be used.

    And that also doesn't negate the fact that proving your age in such a manner gives out 2 pieces of information that can be used to steal a person's identity, is another reason why any reasonable adult would reject any request to prove their age in such a manner to a stranger. And that's what any of these ERP venue owners are to players tho would have to prove their age: a stranger.
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  5. #75
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    Mother Kos
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    We have this thread every week, comrade.

    What the hell are you guys on about with sending people IDs over discord? Going to give them the funky fun numbers on the back of your credit card, too?
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    We have this thread every week
    That's probably my fault. I made a passing comment to a friend a couple of days ago and pointed out that we'd been given a break from 'venue' threads. I may have jinxed it...
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merhouse View Post

    Actually, this was moved to general by a GM. I posted it in the technical forums.
    Y’all ever feel like GMs are poking us with a stick by throwing these threads in GD? Like for entertainment?
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  8. #78
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    Section'three Three
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merhouse View Post
    There is a person in party finder constantly trying to sell feet pictures. I've brought this to the attention of GMs twice, but nothing has been done about the offender.

    How is fetish advertising allowed to happen in a game for ages 13 and up?



    I refuse to accept that. If one can be banned in this game for things like toxicity, when 'you could just blacklist the toxic player', fetish LFG posters advertising adult content should be disallowed from continuing their practices.
    Hello my child. I am section 3.3 and I am here to help and guide you to the righteous path. Alas, your data center lacks the large amount of believers that would carry my banner. Spread the word about me and soon your data center will be purged from such violations by the powers of section 3.3!

    "Believe in the section 3.3 and you will be saved, along with everyone in your household" -Index of light 16:31-
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    3.3 Profanity and Offensive Language. You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly.

  9. #79
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    Galqar Haragin
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Bro, the content is static. Interactions with other players are not. Nobody is offended at the game's content. It's the players unable to control themselves or act normal in a space that has underage players that is the problem.
    You're really going with "think of the children" in a game where the first dungeon has you killing pirates who are keeping women as sex slaves, fighting an evil empire that sets up concentration camps and forces women into prostitution, and a major NPC's backstory involves being sold to a brothel? Compared to what happens in the actual game world, I feel like someone advertising foot fetish pics in Party Finder is positively wholesome--especially since you can blacklist them and don't have to see the posts.
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  10. #80
    Player Caurcas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenoire View Post
    You're really going with "think of the children" in a game where the first dungeon has you killing pirates who are keeping women as sex slaves, fighting an evil empire that sets up concentration camps and forces women into prostitution, and a major NPC's backstory involves being sold to a brothel? Compared to what happens in the actual game world, I feel like someone advertising foot fetish pics in Party Finder is positively wholesome--especially since you can blacklist them and don't have to see the posts.
    You missed the point of the statement. All those story beats you listed were rated by the ESRB as T, and approved by SE. Fetish PF listings haven't. Furthermore, do you know what static means? That's right non-changing. All those story beats and dungeons are code that does not change, where as player interacting with other players can lead to insidious things happening in the the real world facilitated through the game. Use thy brain.
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