Fake FCs' Housing Abuse

[Almagnus1]

If you don't have past experience with a person, you're not going to pick up on their text sarcasm. Some people are 100% serious about the things they say that others assume to be a joke.

Or you can just suck at detecting the two and never really know when someone is being sarcastic so you assume serious when it's not.

[Arielen]

Mission accomplished?

I keep forgetting that people who think that sort of thing without a hint of irony genuinely exist.

[Divinemights]

Not all these FCs are in hand of gil farmers, that is just people overexaggerate it.
There are many reason why someone would try to get a FC house:

- A house for alternative character
- Want to experience GC submarine and airship venture (most FC restrict to core members only)
- Role play
- etc, etc.

It doesn't change one fact tho, they went through all obstacles to meet FC requirement and able to obtain a plot through log in war at every plot release.
To me, that is a dedication.

[Almagnus1]

- A house for alternative character

This is why we need to have a house accessible to all characters on that server.

- Want to experience GC submarine and airship venture (most FC restrict to core members only)

And this is why I have been pushing for the workshop and garden functionality of the houses be made more generally available.

- Role play

You mean run an e-brothel?

[Enla]

That might actually be a decent way out of this mess, as it would allow those in the shell FCs a way to unload their assets in a way that doesn't completely screw them over - provided that it's a limited time window thing, and not a permanent feature to the housing system otherwise that will resurrect some long dead problems.

Honestly I'd be okay with a small window for this, and even paying an exorbitant fee to do this. Because I do get the ire people have due to people using shell FCs to own entire wards. I just don't want to give up the plot that my friends left for me because I missed the cut off for an easy plot transfer.

[Almagnus1]

Honestly I'd be okay with a small window for this, and even paying an exorbitant fee to do this. Because I do get the ire people have due to people using shell FCs to own entire wards. I just don't want to give up the plot that my friends left for me because I missed the cut off for an easy plot transfer.

There's two scenarios that I see here, specifically one where someone is in an FC, the FC fails (or they're with RL friends and they decide to stop playing and they want to retain the house), then it would make sense for them to transfer the FC house to a personal house, especially if the FC is dead and they aren't the type of player that likes recruiting or if they don't have the time to dedicate to the FC.

The other, however, is when a house flipper creates a shell FC that acquires a house, makes the new owner the leader of the FC, they transfer the FC to their personal house, and get a house that way.

The former I'm generally fine with, as the house is basically a keepsake of their time in Eorzea... the later shouldn't be happening.

Maybe we need a rethink of how FCs acquire houses?

I'm fine with FCs getting the permission of "contribute housing" that they can give to a specific rank so that a member of the FC can give their personal house to the FC. With that in place, and the restriction that an account can only have a house per server - and all characters on the server get a warp to the house (in the case of the grandfathered in characters, each character gets a warp location to each house owned across all the characters), that would allow for SE to turn off FCs from being able to buy houses because any FC member can contribute their personal house to the FC.

Following from that, if FC had an option for the FC leader to buy a Mogg Station item to transfer the house from the FC to their personal house (and the house would only be able to be converted if there are no FC rooms), that would allow for failed FCs to divest themselves of their houses in a more controlled manner, provided that the leader does not have a house on the server that is.

There's probably a better way to do that, but that's the current thoughts on it.

[Arielen]

You mean run an e-brothel?

Why do you believe that every person that RPs in their house does it for cybering? There are tons of examples of other projects.

[MilkieTea]

Why do you believe that every person that RPs in their house does it for cybering? There are tons of examples of other projects.

Running a pub, cafe, photo-studio, craft-shop, club, speakeasy, etc etc.

I may be against children being allowed into adult spaces, but that doesn't mean every RP space is an adult space. That also doesn't mean that every adult space is an adult space to ERP.

[Arielen]

Running a pub, cafe, photo-studio, craft-shop, club, speakeasy, etc etc.

I may be against children being allowed into adult spaces, but that doesn't mean every RP space is an adult space. That also doesn't mean that every adult space is an adult space to ERP.

I've got a clinic (personal), yurt (fc room) and I've been decorating my gf's fc as a ryokan. Would love to move my personal to a large though to make an Ishgardian estate with a ballroom on the ground floor with a big chandelier, get the most out of those cool large stairs...

Even mature and adult RP spaces aren't necessarily ERP; excessive violence, swearing, gore, horror, crime and plenty of other subjects qualify as adult without having anything to do with ERP.

[Jirah]

more restrictions on Fc housing like they need to be in a FC for a period of time because its wayy to easy to abuse hence why i see so many wards owned by dead fcs and most wards have about 20 plots of deceased FCS of 0/2 online