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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Like whatever Gaia is, then, and she calls herself an Ascian while still maintaining what bits of her own identity she could recover. But yeah, we still don't know what required an (unsundered) Overlord specifically. I guess that would make the list as we know it:

    1) A candidate.
    2) The Convocation crystal.
    3) An Overlord to complete the ritual.
    4) ??????? (Please look forward to it.)

    If it was just installing the Echo in a compatible soul, we've already got that taken care of, but if there was some specific communion with Zodiark then we're probably SOL for the time being. Still, we have to have kept the job crystal for something, and since it only has the one known function...
    I think there must be some manner of communion with Zodiark required as well in order to take on the aspect of darkness. They prefer the original souls of Zodiark's summoners because that's already there, but in principle they can work with any soul once the Echo is awakened, something Emet-Selch reveals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    It's truly a shame that the Warring Triad trials and associated quests were not made mandatory at some point.

    There's a wave of information where Unukalhai explains to us that not all primal-like entities are the same, and that ones of far greater power and persuasion are the only beings truly dubbed as Eikons by the Allagan Empire.

    In the course of the quest line, the Warring Triad is shown to be able to Temper by sheer proximity, through walls, without even needing to launch some good ole tempering orbs/lances/energy.

    They have also been used as a power source for Azys Llla for 5,000 years. Rather than needing a constant swathe of believers and crystals and aether, they are the power source. This is part of the reason we were able to best them.

    You'd think with all our perusings of Azys Lla, they'd at least get some mention for us to understand the nature of deiform entities better, but they don't, and it's criminal imo.

    It also shows that back in the day, the summoning rituals that the Ascians were handing out were even closer to creation magicks, and they may have directly helped with them, in order for the Meracydian tribes to have such powerful primals. That's supposition on my part, obviously, but what other explanation is there(aside from the meta one where they are direct lifts from FFVI, where they were the original Gods and Progenitors of Magic).
    I agree, they should definitely become mandatory for 6.0, or at least strongly advised. The Meracydian Primals have always stood out to me as more complex entities, but over and above that, as Primals installed in the Aetherial Sea, Zodiark and Hydaelyn would require various special characteristics to meet the summoners' objectives. At least they're not working within the very limited framework of your typical Beast Tribe primal, e.g. Ifrit, Garuda, Titan etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal View Post
    Still holding out hope that Azem/Ascian of Light is going to be a secret job you get during the Endwalker MSQ.
    I'd just love a caster modeled after their use of dark magics, or if it must, one which invokes both light and dark. Something I'd hoped a time mage might do in some facet. It'd fit nicely with the theme that neither is good or evil...
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    Last edited by Lauront; 04-24-2021 at 03:32 AM.
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