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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    This was now, that was then. Again sacrificing all the rejuvenated life in the Ancient world after first sacrificing to restore it would be meaningless, we're specifically told only a portion would be sacrificed. Also unless we assume that the souls of the original sacrifices escaped the Sundering - Which is an unlikely prospect - We would then be led to believe that they exist now as sundered life.


    Sure. But it just happens that the only one who doesn't vouch for Venat's motivations is Venat. When we see the Hydaelyn faction talking about their motivations, the premise is their fear that Zodiark doesn't represent a permanent end to the threat of the Final Days. They say nothing about protecting the rejuvenated life. And frankly, if they had intended Hydaelyn to do what she did and sunder the world, it follows that their priority was the stability of the star itself and not life in particular.
    There was two intended sacrifices for Zodiark. The first was the portion of Amaurotians to summon Zodiark and fix The Sound and Final Days problem. Then they were going to let new life flourish and then sacrifice that life to again power Zodiark to bring back all the dead Amaurotians from the previous sacrifice. To the Ancients is wasn't just an issue of stopping the end of the world but also perpetuating themselves over others.

    But you are correct about Venat and company's motivation. It is not to directly attack Zodiark, as that isn't mentioned. Hydaelyn is summoned to stop the final days from happening. Furthermore, I'm not sure the rejuvenated life had a chance to sprout as I'm assuming Hydaelyn was summoned not long after Zodiark. But the key question is really what is Zodiark doing that will still cause the final days to come to pass that Hydaelyn was necessary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    There was two intended sacrifices for Zodiark. The first was the portion of Amaurotians to summon Zodiark and fix The Sound and Final Days problem. Then they were going to let new life flourish and then sacrifice that life to again power Zodiark to bring back all the dead Amaurotians from the previous sacrifice. To the Ancients is wasn't just an issue of stopping the end of the world but also perpetuating themselves over others.

    But you are correct about Venat and company's motivation. It is not to directly attack Zodiark, as that isn't mentioned. Hydaelyn is summoned to stop the final days from happening. Furthermore, I'm not sure the rejuvenated life had a chance to sprout as I'm assuming Hydaelyn was summoned not long after Zodiark. But the key question is really what is Zodiark doing that will still cause the final days to come to pass that Hydaelyn was necessary?
    Kesey it would have been a total of 3 seperate sacrifices if not more... the first time half of the remaining Amaurotines offered themselves up to create Zodiark and stop the Final Days, another half of who was left of the Amaurotines offered themselves to bring life back to the planet. Then they were going to take the new life after cultivating them and use that new life to bring back those who sacrificed themselves the first two times.

    The first two sacrifices ended up being 75% of the total population after the final days started

    This was all told to us by Hytholodaeus before we went to fight Emet Selch under da sea
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