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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Has anyone put the FF_XIV_EN twitter account on blast for this? It’s stupid, but normally when companies are called out on a public forum where they can be seen by more than just their core consumers, they tend to be a bit more proactive. If not, perhaps have one person make a tweet and attempt to get others to like, retweet, comment on it. If they dont respond to just the one tweet, make multiple tweets, begin tagging SE’s main twitter account, and ensure that each of these tweets get similar traction (perhaps by sharing amongst a specific, large group of people?)
    A few of us have tried tweeting about this and sharing it around, but unfortunately none of us had a large enough following on the platform to get it rolling. We even directly replied to a few FF_XIV_EN tweets, but even then only a couple of other players would reply either dismissing the situation completely or offering unhelpful advice (like "Just block him?" as if that would actually work in this situation because of new alts being used every time). We're all just feeling a little defeated because if this situation were happening on a JP data center, it absolutely would've been addressed by now. But because it's on an NA data center, it's no real issue to SE it seems... Especially since it's only really affecting a small subset of players too (those in Aether's NNs).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AstraBraifort View Post
    A few of us have tried tweeting about this and sharing it around, but unfortunately none of us had a large enough following on the platform to get it rolling. We even directly replied to a few FF_XIV_EN tweets, but even then only a couple of other players would reply either dismissing the situation completely or offering unhelpful advice (like "Just block him?" as if that would actually work in this situation because of new alts being used every time). We're all just feeling a little defeated because if this situation were happening on a JP data center, it absolutely would've been addressed by now. But because it's on an NA data center, it's no real issue to SE it seems... Especially since it's only really affecting a small subset of players too (those in Aether's NNs).
    How would they be able to address it on a JP data center any better than on a NA data center?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    How would they be able to address it on a JP data center any better than on a NA data center?
    They tend to respond to JP related issues with much less public outcry.

    If half as many JP players reported this as NA people did it would've been taken care of.

    Take natural disasters as another example. Any kind of natural disaster that knocks out power in JP they pause things like housing auto-demo yet here in NA it takes several thousand people for them to do anything in the same manner.

    While I want to believe it's just "Japan knows Japan problems better than other places' problems" there are some things that have made me question it. I think the mass amounts of nonsense that happens in the NA community has led them to start ignoring a lot of what we post/say about things.
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    I suppose you could also gather some people together and politely explain the situation to a prominent FFXIV streamer to see if they can start raising awareness about the issue through their platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I suppose you could also gather some people together and politely explain the situation to a prominent FFXIV streamer to see if they can start raising awareness about the issue through their platform.
    That's a really good idea, actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    They tend to respond to JP related issues with much less public outcry.

    If half as many JP players reported this as NA people did it would've been taken care of.

    Take natural disasters as another example. Any kind of natural disaster that knocks out power in JP they pause things like housing auto-demo yet here in NA it takes several thousand people for them to do anything in the same manner.

    While I want to believe it's just "Japan knows Japan problems better than other places' problems" there are some things that have made me question it. I think the mass amounts of nonsense that happens in the NA community has led them to start ignoring a lot of what we post/say about things.
    My question wasn't why would they be more likely to address it on JP servers than NA. Clearly SE practices bias toward their JP player base despite all of us paying the same subscription (look at the greater number of worlds for JP players despite lower active population and how that impacts house availability for JP compared to NA).

    My question was how would they be able to address it any better? VPN are extremely common these days when one wants to mask identifying factors and it's quick and easy to make throwaway trial accounts. Assuming SE would go to additional lengths to get the assistance of law enforcement in obtaining the real world identity of the individual responsible (which I doubt over something players can easily handle on an individual basis through blacklist), they're still going to be tied up by whatever the legal system is where that individual resides and whether or not that legal system would consider the individual's actions a crime.

    So again how could SE address it any better if it was happening on the JP servers instead of the NA servers? They're still up against trying to identify the individual responsible then getting assistance from law enforcement to stop that individual's activities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    So again how could SE address it any better if it was happening on the JP servers instead of the NA servers?
    The same way they responded to PvP hacks, I guess.

    They didn't care until it sprouted up on JP servers, and they responded by banning trials from every doing the content so if one does it on their JP servers, they can ban them.

    So if they do respond, they'll just prevent trials from accessing the NN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    So again how could SE address it any better if it was happening on the JP servers instead of the NA servers?
    It wouldn't be addressed "any better". It's just that, as with most issues on JP servers, it would be addressed faster and taken more seriously.

    You originally posed this question to one of my responses, and I honestly don't know why, because my post didn't mention it would be addressed better either. I said it would've been addressed by now.

    Quote Originally Posted by AstraBraifort View Post
    (...) because if this situation were happening on a JP data center, it absolutely would've been addressed by now. But because it's on an NA data center, it's no real issue to SE it seems... Especially since it's only really affecting a small subset of players too (those in Aether's NNs).
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