Dear SE

[Tsumdere]

memes aside, i get the feeling its less the crossover itself, but more the subject of the crossover

This. I have had no problems with any crossovers until now. It was a giant waste of an entire expansions alliance raid series - one that could have been spent exploring the world on the First. I wish we had an entire raid series about Laxenloft in Lakeland or through the memory of Amarout.

A Nier trial would have been fine - but an entire three-part series that axed out unique content, dropped mostly mediocre or samey glams, is the easiest alliance raids since Void Ark, and has a meaningless, impactless "plot" that completely relies on people playing Nier beforehand and is utterly confusing to those who hasn't... miss me with that.

[LisSquid]

I wish we had an entire raid series about Laxenloft in Lakeland or through the memory of Amarout.

I expected nothing but now I am actually really mad they didn't make the Alliance Raids about the first.. What a waste

[Bright-Flower]

This. I have had no problems with any crossovers until now. It was a giant waste of an entire expansions alliance raid series - one that could have been spent exploring the world on the First. I wish we had an entire raid series about Laxenloft in Lakeland or through the memory of Amarout.

A Nier trial would have been fine - but an entire three-part series that axed out unique content, dropped mostly mediocre or samey glams, is the easiest alliance raids since Void Ark, and has a meaningless, impactless "plot" that completely relies on people playing Nier beforehand and is utterly confusing to those who hasn't... miss me with that.

Playing Automata does nothing to make this plot any better. It doesn't really answer any questions etc.

The only benefit you have for having played Automata/Nier/Drakengard is getting to go 'I understand that reference' here and there but none of it matters.

The issue IMO wasn't really the subject matter (Nier Automata) but more so the lazy way the went about the plot. It would have been fine if they'd integrated it into the lore in some way. Given that the raid series is YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse, it could have tied in some way to the end days, or the bad future that the Crystal Exarch came from etc for example. But they did nothing interesting. A Nier raid series didn't HAVE to be a waste of time plot wise.

IMO the issue wasn't the subject matter but the way they integrated (or rather, chose NOT to integrate) it into the lore of FFXIV's setting.

[Sotaris]

As much as I liked them I have to agree. Long term crossovers like this suck if you don't care about the source material ( I hated the last raid series cause I don't care for Tactics)

Tbf, it had probably more FF12 lore than tactics but I get what you're saying.

[Bright-Flower]

Tbf, it had probably more FF12 lore than tactics but I get what you're saying.

It seemed like the present day stuff was largely FF 12 yes, but the backstory was very much Tactics. Including all of the bosses in the final raid. Plus the present day siblings being named after Tactics characters.

[Sotaris]

Yeah I suppose you're right. A healthy mix.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Quite the opposite for me. It got me into Automata and preorder Replicant, hype for 23rd!

I'd also go as far as saying this raid series been probably my favorite so far in this game.

Same here. I even ordered the 2B quarter scale statue being produced by SE and Prime 1 Studios.

[Tsumdere]

Playing Automata does nothing to make this plot any better. It doesn't really answer any questions etc.

The only benefit you have for having played Automata/Nier/Drakengard is getting to go 'I understand that reference' here and there but none of it matters.

The issue IMO wasn't really the subject matter (Nier Automata) but more so the lazy way the went about the plot. It would have been fine if they'd integrated it into the lore in some way. Given that the raid series is YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse, it could have tied in some way to the end days, or the bad future that the Crystal Exarch came from etc for example. But they did nothing interesting. A Nier raid series didn't HAVE to be a waste of time plot wise.

IMO the issue wasn't the subject matter but the way they integrated (or rather, chose NOT to integrate) it into the lore of FFXIV's setting.

That's totally fair and don't get me wrong, I was rooting for it to be good from when it was announced and thought it would be an alternate bad end timeline plot as well. I was one of the people who was excited to see how it would work. At the end of the day though, it is a meandering plot-less alliance raid with no impact.

Also oof that it's all just references and makes no sense even to veteran Nier players.

[Jojoya]

Dear SE,

Please do a drakengard one next.

Mostly for the glams, but also to annoy the people who don't like crossovers, even though XIV has had them since.... Like 2.1

At least other crossovers were done in a way that blended them well into FFXIV.

This one didn't. It felt like it was coming from an entirely different game (because it was).

[Haruka_R]

The glams from drakengard, 3 especially, would go well in xivs setting and be great additions. Probably fit better into the setting too.

My feelings exactly. Drakengard would've been a WAY better crossover than Nier.