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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    There's always going to be the handful of people that want to stick a char in their friend's FC especially since we can roll 8/server.

    How would you suggest handling that?
    I think they mean being able to be fc master of only one fc that has a house.
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    I know its not as fun as coming up with terrible solutions and would mean we need to redirect our outrage to its actual source, but I personally think we should be putting more pressure on SE to solve the mess we are in a way that is fair, like allowing all chars on an account to share a house if they are on the same server while adding enough wards to allow everyone to have housing, adding workshops to personal houses or just add the option to choose instanced housing which would help to solve this issue once and for all, instead of coming up with more and more ways to punish players that currently own or will own houses in the future.

    I also am realistic enough to realize that we will never do that since its easier to hate on someone who was able to buy 3 houses rather than the system that allowed it in the first place or the people who refuse to change said system and that this is a 10 year old game so the chances of them solving the housing crisis is nearly non existent at this point, especially if they aren't going to use the upcoming farming sim to do so, which is one of their biggest missed opportunities yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    I know its not as fun as coming up with terrible solutions and would mean we need to redirect our outrage to its actual source, but I personally think we should be putting more pressure on SE to solve the mess we are in a way that is fair, like allowing all chars on an account to share a house if they are on the same server while adding enough wards to allow everyone to have housing, adding workshops to personal houses or just add the option to choose instanced housing which would help to solve this issue once and for all, instead of coming up with more and more ways to punish players that currently own or will own houses in the future.

    I also am realistic enough to realize that we will never do that since its easier to hate on someone who was able to buy 3 houses rather than the system that allowed it in the first place or the people who refuse to change said system and that this is a 10 year old game so the chances of them solving the housing crisis is nearly non existent at this point, especially if they aren't going to use the upcoming farming sim to do so, which is one of their biggest missed opportunities yet.
    delicious, finally some good takes
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    delicious, finally some good takes
    Oh, you mean like when I suggested something similar several months back:

    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    That's kinda where the suggestions for letting all alts on the same server have access to the same personal house the server (and for that matter, letting the grandfathered in houses appear on each character that's on the same server)
    If you didn't have such a raging hate boner for me... maybe you'd see that.

    Oh, and by the way, putting a quote from a four year old thread (which is also completely out of historical and thread context) in your sig is actually a form of harassment, which is in violation of https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...la=1&tag=forum, specifically:

    Posting that constitutes discrimination against another forum member or group (also including forming groups for the purpose of discrimination), insults, slander, libel, harassment of a group or individual.
    Remember what happened to that other poster that went mass hate against me?
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I think they mean being able to be fc master of only one fc that has a house.
    How would that work if an FC leadership happens (like for example) if the FC leader goes AFK and the #2 picks up the slack and continues to run the FC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Oh, you mean like when I suggested something similar several months back:



    If you didn't have such a raging hate boner for me... maybe you'd see that.

    Oh, and by the way, putting a quote from a four year old thread (which is also completely out of historical and thread context) in your sig is actually a form of harassment, which is in violation of https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...la=1&tag=forum, specifically:



    Remember what happened to that other poster that went mass hate against me?
    citation needed for my saying that the personals being server wide is a bad idea

    i never saw that post because I was playing shadowlands for like 3 months
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    citation needed for my saying that the personals being server wide is a bad idea
    Your general attitude towards me is anything I post is bad (which is ridiculous). Disagreement is fine, but constantly seeing a four year old take (that is a very bad take when ripped out of historical and thread context) every single time you post is harassment because the objective of your sig is to pre-emptively shut down whatever I have to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    i never saw that post because I was playing shadowlands for like 3 months
    Then you prolly missed where the other poster got dealt with because they were getting that out of line. Yes, it was that bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Your general attitude towards me is anything I post is bad (which is ridiculous). Disagreement is fine, but constantly seeing a four year old take (that is a very bad take when ripped out of historical and thread context) every single time you post is harassment because the objective of your sig is to pre-emptively shut down whatever I have to say.



    Then you prolly missed where the other poster got dealt with because they were getting that out of line. Yes, it was that bad.
    i’m sorry but... that’s not what harassment is at all. it may be upsetting to see but upsetting to see ≠ harassment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Your general attitude towards me is anything I post is bad (which is ridiculous). Disagreement is fine, but constantly seeing a four year old take (that is a very bad take when ripped out of historical and thread context) every single time you post is harassment because the objective of your sig is to pre-emptively shut down whatever I have to say.



    Then you prolly missed where the other poster got dealt with because they were getting that out of line. Yes, it was that bad.
    I have no idea what you want from me here. I agree that your suggestion was good, which immediately negates the notion that I think everything you post is innately bad.

    Anyway, if you take issue with my signature, it's your right to report it. I just find it fascinating to log for historical purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    How would that work if an FC leadership happens (like for example) if the FC leader goes AFK and the #2 picks up the slack and continues to run the FC?
    I assume SE would put in a mechanic that prevents someone who is already fc leader of a fc with a house to become the fc leader of a second fc with a house. Like...that's the only way it would work. SE would have to change something.

    But that person's idea isn't mine so I don't know how they would answer you. Anyway I think their suggestion is excessive. Limiting house ownership to be per server would be enough, and there is no reason to limit apartment ownership at all. I do agree that all alts should have access to the same private home...but I think almost everyone agrees with this given how convenient it would be for everyone. Even SE agreed this would be a good thing.
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