6.0 Story Speculations

[Jandor]

I guess everyone could have a tiny slice of ancient in them given they were used as fuel for Zodiarks re-seeding of the planet.

Who else was around in ancient times? Were ancients the only sapient life? Did the supply of ancient souls outstrip demand? What was the new life that Zodiark whipped up? It's all rather vague.

[Rannie]

It could however there is one part in Ere Our Curtain Falls where it uses the wording of "Freshly minted souls" and from what Lauront said the French version says something similar....

This was soon after Zodiark became the will of the star, and our Final Days were averted. The people were divided, unable to decide what to do with the future that now stretched out before them. Many wished to trade the new life which had sprung forth to reclaim those lost in sacrifice to Zodiark. No small number, however, insisted that the fate of our world should be entrusted to those selfsame freshly minted souls. All were at our wits' end.

Though that doesn't say that they used previous souls from ancients... normally with something that is freshly minted it means everything about it is brand new

Edit: I had always doubted that Zodiark and the Amaurotines, who had summoned him, wanted to go through another evolution cycle to get the races or species back or close enough to where they were especially considering its only been 12k ish years since the sundering and from what yoshi p pretty much said for the calamity.

[Jandor]

Though that doesn't say that they used previous souls from ancients... normally with something that is freshly minted it means everything about it is brand new

I'd forgot about that bit.

Yeah, given that line, I'd assume that not everyone is a reincarnation of an ancient. Ancient souls probably just got mixed into the same pot for recycling after they went extinct as a species.

[KageTokage]

I really hope we finally get a definitive answer about when the races of man originated in 6.0. Presently. one could think they were created by the Ancients as some of the "freshly minted" souls that ended up causing the Zodiark/Hydaelyn conflict, but the same time the fact that unsundered immediately started referring to their sundered brethren as "malformed creatures" makes me feel like the stuff Varis was told by Elidibus about there being just one superior race of man originally may have been true.

Speculations aside, I do hope these Moon towers across Erozea is some hint of a world event slowly forming in the sky. (1.0 Meteor.) Because I've began noticing sonar-like pulsing effects coming from the towers after the most recent patch that I don't remember seeing when I caught up to the end of 5.4's story. Or maybe I'm just not remembering them, i hope that's not the case; because I want to see a 2nd Meteor event, so badly. xD

The towers have always been pulsing like that.

Considering how much emphasis they're putting on the moon in the 5.5 trailer and that Zodiark has been described dormant/slumbering post-sundering, I'm expecting that at least part of their purpose is to wake him up, which might be the trigger that causes the second coming of the Final Days. If he starts straining to escape from his prison it could cause some very unpleasant side effects considering the destruction Bahamut managed to cause while still trapped in Dalamud.

[Kesey]

Actually they dont, Ascians didnt had the monopoly of souls even if part of the new souls did get "recycled" from them so to speak. Even using the eastern philosophy of reincarnation Ascians were only a part of the total souls in the star's cycle and thats the main reason they were so willing to sacrifice the entire non Ascian population, because most were of non ascian souls with just a small part being Ascian shards.

If all of the new life were ascian shards they would have had a much harder time to deciding sacrificing them considering as a race they are selfless enough to willingly sacrifice so many of their kin to save the star.

They don't have a hard time sacrificing Ancient soul fragments because having a fragmented soul is disgusting to the unsundered. Their entire goal is to rejoin everything, so everyone is fodder to their plan because if they accomplish it all will be rejoined like they were in Ancient times.

[Bhearil]

They don't have a hard time sacrificing Ancient soul fragments because having a fragmented soul is disgusting to the unsundered. Their entire goal is to rejoin everything, so everyone is fodder to their plan because if they accomplish it all will be rejoined like they were in Ancient times.

Thats different, some sundered actually did rejoin the ascians and arent treated much differently, what they are disgusted for are the lesser races who appeared after them due to all of their many many flaws PLUS that they are sundered as well to add insult to the injury due to the world shard splitting

Theres a difference between your sundered kin and sundered beings whose souls have no relevance and are to them more akin to barely sentient animals than individuals.

[Kesey]

Thats different, some sundered actually did rejoin the ascians and arent treated much differently, what they are disgusted for are the lesser races who appeared after them due to all of their many many flaws PLUS that they are sundered as well to add insult to the injury due to the world shard splitting

Theres a difference between your sundered kin and sundered beings whose souls have no relevance and are to them more akin to barely sentient animals than individuals.

The flaws the Ascians see are the sundered souls. A Tale from the Shadows explicitly dealt with this as a mistake, like Phoenix, is afforded more respect due possession of a full soul, then an intentional project, like Varis, who holds a sundered soul.

[Katie_Kitty]

If Zenos doesn't help Zodiark break out of his/her/it's moon-prison and then merge with Zodiark, I'm going to be a bit disappointed. xD

Also, Fandaniel seems like he just doesn't want to exist period, and wants to take everything to oblivion with him.

Seeems like it would be easier if he just killed himself, but well, then there goes the story.

*sighs* I hope the new story doesn't involve characters like Fandaniel or Zenos anymore, these types of 2-dimensional characters have some of the most shallow and nonsense motivations and drives. You can't have meaningful moments with characters like this that either learn or evolve from their misdeeds like many of the other great villain's in story-telling.

A villain doesn't need to become less villainous in order to be good. I dunno where this idea came from that sooo many people have where they believe you can't have an interesting villain who is simply pure evil.

[Bright-Flower]

A villain doesn't need to be sympathetic etc, but they do need something. And it's highly subjective of course. I find Zenos rather dull but others like him and there's nothing wrong with that. Fandaniel I didn't like at first but he grew on me a bit this last patch, we'll see how he plays out. Valens was no more redeemable or sympathetic character than Zenos, but I found him more interesting than Zenos for example.

[Bhearil]

The flaws the Ascians see are the sundered souls. A Tale from the Shadows explicitly dealt with this as a mistake, like Phoenix, is afforded more respect due possession of a full soul, then an intentional project, like Varis, who holds a sundered soul.

Yet they were willing to sacrifice ALL UNSUNDERED souls aside Ascian's so that Zodiark spit back the ascian souls used during his summoning (thats it until a less radical ascian faction summoned Hydaelyn in kind to avoid that mass genocyde). Only after Hydaelyn defeated Zodiark and splitted reality that souls became sundered.

Solus aka Emeth disliked his grandchild Varis, because he reminded him too much of his dead son, to whom is implied Emeth came to love until he died young to a disease.

Emeth didnt expect anything of Varis