Removal of Piety and Tenacity for Endwalker

[Rongway]

Whether you like it or not... You take away direct hit from tanks and they'll meld critical, take that away and they'll end up melding determination.
This is an aggressive circle of nerfs that would piss off a lot of players.

We are not talking about taking away crit or determination. We're talking about taking away the one stat clearly intended to be used by DDs. Tanks are only ignoring the one stat intended for them because they are allowed to meld the DD-only stat and benefit from it.

Tanks and DDs are allowed to meld the healer-only stat, Piety, but get no benefit from it. DDs and healers are allowed to meld the tank-only stat, tenacity, but get no benefit from it. The only problems that would arise from making it so that tanks and healers do not benefit from melding the DD-only stat would be contrived.

If tenacity is still not worth melding after dhit becomes a DD-only stat, then fix tenacity.

[Timmyftw]

We are not talking about taking away crit or determination. We're talking about taking away the one stat clearly intended to be used by DDs. Tanks are only ignoring the one stat intended for them because they are allowed to meld the DD-only stat and benefit from it.

So you're suggesting to disallow tanks to meld Direct Hit, Critical, Detemination, or Skill Speed?
Taking away Direct Hit does nothing to solve the issue, similar to how taking away Strength did nothing to solve the issue.
Would you prefer every tank to meld only Tenacity? That would essentially take away any type of materia customization for tanks.
With your suggestion, we'd cause a lot of players to quit.

Like I said, You take away Direct Hit and they'll meld the next best damage dealing stat.

[Rongway]

So you're suggesting to disallow tanks to meld Direct Hit, Critical, Detemination, or Skill Speed?
Taking away Direct Hit does nothing to solve the issue, similar to how taking away Strength did nothing to solve the issue.
Would you prefer every tank to meld only Tenacity? That would essentially take away any type of materia customization for tanks.
With your suggestion, we'd cause a lot of players to quit.

You are purposely jumping to the most absurd possible interpretation. Stop.

One more time.

We. Are. Talking. About. Tenacity vs direct hit.

If your only criticism of my suggestion is that it's a slippery slope, you are purposely trying to be antagonistic.

I never argued for any of the following:

• Remove crit from tanks.
• Remove det from tanks.
• Remove skill speed from tanks.
• Tanks should only meld tenacity

I said:

• If tanks were not allowed to meld dhit, then Tenacity would be evaluated based on its own merit rather than on its deficiency compared to dhit,
• or it would be evaluated based on its deficiency compared to determination,
• and they would choose whichever increased their DPS more
• Tanks are only ignoring the one stat intended for them because they are allowed to meld the DD-only stat and benefit from it.
• If tenacity is still not worth melding after dhit becomes a DD-only stat, then fix tenacity.

[Timmyftw]

We. Are. Talking. About. Tenacity vs direct hit.

What you're suggesting does not fix anything except nerf tanks. It does not help in any way. All it does is reduce the value of Direct Hit.
Even Healers meld Direct Hit, so it would still be an issue if you focused on nerfing tanks.