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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Yawn, who cares.

    I don't see why you want yet another unoriginal, derivative piece of glam that's just going to be played out instantly the moment everyone and their mother decides to start wearing it because "omg i saw that outfit in nier automata."

    Nier isn't even a good game. Personally, I just want this alliance raid series to be over so we can move onto something worthwhile instead of a blatant advertisement for a crappy game that isn't even final fantasy. :/

    I'm over it. Good riddance Nier raids.
    I share the sentiment of being happy to see the backside of the Nier raids, just not with quite so much vehemence. They relied very much on game recognition for the context and this makes the story for a non-Nier fan incredibly bland and disappointing. With CT and Ivalice, we saw the elements of III and Tactics/XII told through a story fully connected to Eorzea. The Nier raids feel like they just added some instances to go play a completely different game that has little to no relevance to what you do outside those instances. Which I supposed is a good thing, since we won't see them try to integrate these into future storytelling like with Crystal Tower or Ivalice.
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    With CT and Ivalice, we saw the elements of III and Tactics/XII told through a story fully connected to Eorzea. The Nier raids feel like they just added some instances to go play a completely different game that has little to no relevance to what you do outside those instances.
    I felt this way about the Ivalice raids TBH.
    It felt like being the third wheel in another characters quest, and not knowing shit about Ivalician lore I was super uninterested to babysit NPCs through content unrelated to anything.
    The crystal tower and void ark tied into pre1.0 lore and worked off of what had happened in previous calamities.
    The nier raid is an extension of one of the endings from Automata and is probably cannon to it.
    The Ivalician stuff came out of nothing and never mattered to anything beyond themselves.
    It's not like it's even tying 3, tactics, or 12 to 14 the way the Nier raids tied Nier to 14, because with the Nier raids it's, again, literally the same Nier. But the Ivalice in 14 is unique to 14 and only based on the other games, but not connected to any of them or expanding on them.
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    Last edited by ItMe; 04-14-2021 at 01:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Yawn, who cares.

    I don't see why you want yet another unoriginal, derivative piece of glam that's just going to be played out instantly the moment everyone and their mother decides to start wearing it because "omg i saw that outfit in nier automata."

    Nier isn't even a good game. Personally, I just want this alliance raid series to be over so we can move onto something worthwhile instead of a blatant advertisement for a crappy game that isn't even final fantasy. :/

    I'm over it. Good riddance Nier raids.
    I love NieR: Automata but it's not NieR that was the problem here. The raids are just unimaginative. There was potential to make something original and new, the developers didn't seem all that thrilled working on them judging by how they played out. I'm going to spare people the details of the raids ending but let's just say, I have been sorely disappointed with the conclusion. The fights were great, the music was wonderful, but the story is disappointing imo. Not to mention the rewards that could have been possible. Including OP's demand for the 9S glamour, since 2B's glamour is already available in the first raid.

    That said, I haven't seen these characters for 4 years and in the end, I feel like they could have just left them out. They felt forced to me in this scenario. (Where was A2 in all of this???)
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    Last edited by Shin96; 04-14-2021 at 04:03 PM.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Yawn, who cares.

    I don't see why you want yet another unoriginal, derivative piece of glam that's just going to be played out instantly the moment everyone and their mother decides to start wearing it because "omg i saw that outfit in nier automata."

    Nier isn't even a good game. Personally, I just want this alliance raid series to be over so we can move onto something worthwhile instead of a blatant advertisement for a crappy game that isn't even final fantasy. :/

    I'm over it. Good riddance Nier raids.
    imagine playing FFXIV and calling NieR a crappy game lmao
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    You could just say good job, but I want x, y, z loot as feedback.
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    You wanted weapons and a mount to drop from an Alliance Raid? That's some high level demanding.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    I felt this way about the Ivalice raids TBH.
    It felt like being the third wheel in another characters quest, and not knowing shit about Ivalician lore I was super uninterested to babysit NPCs through content unrelated to anything.
    The crystal tower and void ark tied into pre1.0 lore and worked off of what had happened in previous calamities.
    The nier raid is an extension of one of the endings from Automata and is probably cannon to it.
    The Ivalician stuff came out of nothing and never mattered to anything beyond themselves.
    It's not like it's even tying 3, tactics, or 12 to 14 the way the Nier raids tied Nier to 14, because with the Nier raids it's, again, literally the same Nier. But the Ivalice in 14 is unique to 14 and only based on the other games, but not connected to any of them or expanding on them.
    That's a core facet of Final Fantasy, though. They built up the multiverse idea in later games and XIV carries it strongly, but all the way back to the early games the games in a series were "echoes" of each other in some ways. You see the same monsters, different versions of the same people, etc. So Ivalice has a lot that is familiar, but also tells its own story fitting easily into the broader XIV story. You don't need to know the Ivalician lore to know what's going on because it's Ivalice in XIV.

    Besides the integration in some of the music, there's no echo of Final Fantasy in the Nier raids.
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    I completely agree.
    Every time a new raid came out I got excited thinking, "this time the fending set will be the Heavy Armor A set, it has to be". And 3 times I was wrong, we just got some variations of yorha themed clothing, that's it.

    Extremely disappointing.
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  9. #29
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    I do agree that the Nier raid 3 rewards are underwhelming. And I am also fed up with the Nier content. As soon as I get the battlefield bob, I will not touch the Nier content anymore.

    Like, I have Nier: Automata. If I wanted to play Nier: Automata, then I'll go play Nier: Automata.
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    I don't have much care as to what is gender locked and not. But there is some pieces in this game that have no business having their Gender lock removed. If SE ever adds more options for body types to this game things will get more visually disturbing then they already are. Who here would enjoying seeing Hyur with a huge beer gut and hairy back. Walking around wearing what is basically a two piece string bikini.
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    Note: Taking advice from a players alt, is like taking advice from a voice in a dark room. Criticism is a two way street remember that!!

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