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    Alphinaud, Alisae, and Lyse are teenagers. The Twins spent 1 year on the First so they might be in their 20s by now. Tataru might be a teenager or in her early teens.

    Papalymo seems to have been in his 30s or 40s.

    Y'shtola seems to be in her 20s, but she acts like she's in her 30s so maybe she is? Spent like 3 years on the First IIRC.

    Urianger seems to be in his 30s. Spent like 3 years on the First.

    Minfillia couldn't have been any older than 23 or 24 by ARR. In the 1.0 Ul'dah intro cutscene which takes place 10 years before 2.0, she's a little kid, no older than 13 or 14.

    Thancred: In the 1.0 Ul'dah intro cutscene (which takes place 5 years before 1.0 takes place, which takes place 5 years before 2.0 takes place), Thancred looks exactly the same as he does today. So assuming he was 18-20 years old back then, and at least 10 years have passed, then he should be at least 30 by the time of ARR. Then he gets isekaied to the First and was there for 5 years, so he should be either in his mid to late 30s, or possibly his 40s. The Shadowbringers cinematic makes him look like he is in his late 40s or 50s. It's bizzare because he still looks like he is in his early 20s ingame.

    Krile seems to be in her 20s.

    Nanamo seems to have been a teenager or in her early 20s.

    Merlwyb seems to be in her 30s.

    Kan-E-Seena appears to be in her 20s but might be older due to magic or immortality or something.

    Raubahn seems to be in his late 40s or 50s. The Ala Mhigo civil war against the Mad King began 25 years ago (Garlean conquest was 20 years ago), and in Stormblood 4.0 we get a flashback to when Raubahn and Illberd were first recruited to join the war against the Mad King, and they looked to be in their 20s.

    Hien and Aymeric seem to be in their mid to late 20s, possibly early 30s.

    The game is extremely vague on how much time passes over the course of the story, but by Shadowbringers 5.1, at least two years must have passed since ARR. After ARR 2.0, the Doman Resistance makes their move and try to revolt and fail. The Doman refugees travel by ship from Doma to Ul'dah, a voyage that would have taken months. In Stormblood, the heroes travel by ship from Limsa to Kugane multiple times, and that voyage takes months. You also had Thancred and Estinien travelling to Garlemald and back on foot during the story, which would have taken months. So the Twins and Lyse are almost certainly in their early 20s by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal View Post
    /snip
    the times they spent on the 1st have no bearing on their ages due to the fact that they weren't there in Physical body and had a temporary body created. (Case in point look at Cylva, then look at how long she's been wandering around on the first after she had been put in suspended animation after dying on the 13th by Elidibus. If it's not your home shard, you DON'T age unless you come there with an actual physical body.) There were only two people from the Source that would have and DID age. One was G'raha Tia but his life was prolonged due to him Merging with the Crystal Tower and thus aging but not dying, and the PC due to being summoned there completely.

    Taking out head canon which is not valid canon in a lore forum for exacts. The Twins as was said before are 16 and the others are they're respected ages from the beginning of 2.0.

    The intro cutscene for 1.0 for thancred and ALL the other people in the CIRCLE OF KNOWING. Happened 10 years before the start of 1.0 NOT 5 the echo flashbacks from 1.0 are that old as well. it's give you the actual time frame on the EVENTS including the DEATH of Warburton on page 51 and 52ish of the Encyclopedia Eorzea... (also the some 15 years ago before ARR, due to the simpsonesq time bubble that the story is in Minfillia herself comments that SOME 15 years had passed since her father died while they were all moving to the RISING STONES.)
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    Last edited by Rannie; 04-13-2021 at 02:24 PM. Reason: Figures I see errors when rereading
    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    There were only two people from the Source that would have and DID age. One was G'raha Tia but his life was prolonged due to him Merging with the Crystal Tower and thus aging but not dying
    Actually he stopped aging completely (confirmed in question 2 here) and isn't really mortal any more. His white-tinged hair seems to be part of the crystallisation effect rather than from age.

    Anyway, even though he's back to his younger mortal body, his mind is a lot older - 120ish now, give or take how much time he spent in the dark future timeline and exactly how many years ago he arrived in the First.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Actually he stopped aging completely (confirmed in question 2 here) and isn't really mortal any more. His white-tinged hair seems to be part of the crystallisation effect rather than from age.

    Anyway, even though he's back to his younger mortal body, his mind is a lot older - 120ish now, give or take how much time he spent in the dark future timeline and exactly how many years ago he arrived in the First.
    Ah i misunderstood that portion of it then lol thanks Iscah.
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Actually he stopped aging completely (confirmed in question 2 here) and isn't really mortal any more. His white-tinged hair seems to be part of the crystallisation effect rather than from age.

    Anyway, even though he's back to his younger mortal body, his mind is a lot older - 120ish now, give or take how much time he spent in the dark future timeline and exactly how many years ago he arrived in the First.
    G'raha Tia gets the literal dream of knowing what you know now but in your younger body and he just puppy dog's the WOL instead. Wasted potential imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    G'raha Tia gets the literal dream of knowing what you know now but in your younger body and he just puppy dog's the WOL instead. Wasted potential imo.
    What do you mean, "instead"? That is what he wants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    G'raha Tia gets the literal dream of knowing what you know now but in your younger body and he just puppy dog's the WOL instead. Wasted potential imo.


    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    What do you mean, "instead"? That is what he wants.

    It is what he wants indeed. He spent over 100 years thinking when he went back, and then when we got there that we would fix everything. Make his wish come true. What could be greater than adventuring with your personal savior, hero, and role model? Especially considering they're always part of grand things, like solving tempering, and slaying Eikons.
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    "I thought that my invincible power would hold the world captive, leaving me in a freedom undisturbed. Thus night and day I worked at the chain with huge fires and cruel hard strokes. When at last the work was done and the links were complete and unbreakable, I found that it held me in its grip." - Rabindranath Tagore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    What do you mean, "instead"? That is what he wants.
    I feel G'raha's behavior is inappropriate. The 5.4 scene in the cave where he wants to spend more time with you instead of focusing on the mission is inappropriate and creepy. The community can claim he is just a fan boy but he has to learn personal boundaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    I feel G'raha's behavior is inappropriate. The 5.4 scene in the cave where he wants to spend more time with you instead of focusing on the mission is inappropriate and creepy. The community can claim he is just a fan boy but he has to learn personal boundaries.
    Personally it doesn't really bother me, remember he basically looked up to us even before ending up spending a century in the Darkest Timeline and technically Dying before ending up joining the A-team and reliving a better future he didnt see the first time around. I just consider it his inner Fanboy coming out a bit at times.

    In terms of the characters ages these are going to be mainly based of their age as of ARR. In terms of current ages this has been rather ambiguous as the dev team has been rather coy on how much actual time has passed in the game though at least a year has gone by by the time of Stormblood occuring. It could be also because the dev team has not actually decided on a new calendar tho as the 7th Umbral Calamity effectively resets the calendar to year 0 and the other fact that Loisioux Super Old Man Punching Bahamut unintentionally mitagted a world ending angry primal into a regonal disaster unlike the previous calamities basically trashing the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldStarz View Post
    It's basically impossible to pinpoint exact ages given that the MSQ is intentionally vague about how much time has passed since ARR started and Shadowbringers complicates things further since most of the Scions now have chronological ages that are different from their physical ones. Their age at this point largely comes down to headcanon at this point and any listed age is more of "they are at least this many years old."
    Only their physical ages is really relevant as the whole travelling across the void between shards has a distortionate effect, i mean we literally save the first and go back to Tataru to tell us we'd only just left!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    I feel G'raha's behavior is inappropriate. The 5.4 scene in the cave where he wants to spend more time with you instead of focusing on the mission is inappropriate and creepy. The community can claim he is just a fan boy but he has to learn personal boundaries.
    Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. I want more dialogue options to make it clear that my character doesn't care about him in the slightest and is only working with him - very reluctantly - because he isn't being given another choice.

    We're also meant to be building up to a recreation of the literal apocalypse. G'raha acting the way that he does simply makes it harder to immerse myself in the story. I hope he doesn't get the lion's share of time in the spotlight in Endwalker and I most certainly hope that he doesn't end up playing a major part in taking down another major antagonist.
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