just reminding SE they added two new races last expansion ...

[Axxion]

This has turned into a cat fight....

well this is a very sensitive topic. :P

[LaylaTsarra]

This has turned into a cat fight....

Yeah be sure to call people selfish for wanting something other races are getting regularly and simply be happy that there have been no new additions for two years. How dare people complain about it.

[Sathona]

they wont be ehe

[Kaurhz]

1) not an opinion but a claim to a fact that might not be true, the purpose of which can be charitably assumed to be "please stop complaining about this."

2) Sure this is an opinion but it's a tertiary one that does not add to the thread but could detract by adding a third dimension (a meta discussion about forum etiquette) to an otherwise two dimensional (I want vs I don't want) thread.

3) A repeat of 1, perhaps? But it's not an opinion either way, it's a claim of fact that might not be true, perhaps the op is new, perhaps they're new to the conversation, perhaps the reader is new to the thread pulled up on google years later. And the purpose behind it? Well I won't assume the worst but it's hard to say it's anything productive.

4) You ran out of examples huh? Of your four examples of "people are just posting opinions and getting victim bombed," two aren't opinions, one is a tertiary (meta) opinion, and one is... Just a general "I claim it therefore it is."

To the credit of people who posted "not this again," they successfully derailed a topic from character customization updates into yet another meta commentary on dev cycles, habits, and feedback methods. Oh well, back to lurking and popcorn for me.

This was a general comment pertaining to how people seem to enjoy pawning off opinions as I highlighted. Complain about it how much you please, but does it really warrant another thread? The last thread was barely 5 pages ago. Don't need a new thread for every hairstyle they decide to release. As someone said to me on the thread about botting; probably going to fall on deaf ears, as this one will. I look forward to several threads of this very nature being made between now and 6.0, as unnecessary as it is.

There is a reason why the search function exists on a forum, so you don't need to flood the forum with a dozen of the same, or similar thread, I'm not sure someone signed up in 2017 constitutes as new. Had people stuck with a single thread and just necro'd that, it'd have likely gotten a lot more notoriety, but for a simple reason you listed below, this thread won't because now it is another meta-commentary on dev cycles and such.

No, these 4 examples were highlighted from the thread across around 7 pages. I'm not going to pull up every single comment wherein someone exhibited such behavior in a 13-page thread, do be a realist. Contrary to what I myself have even posted, and several others, one whom I replied to seemed to be implying, that there was an abundance of calling people entitled in the thread, which to my knowledge is false, and thus people were just trying to paint this narrative based on people having disagreements, or at the very least a dislike for the thread itself.

[Lanadra]

Yeah be sure to call people selfish for wanting something other races are getting regularly and simply be happy that there have been no new additions for two years. How dare people complain about it.

I mean, you were literally belittling people in the same boat as you, only regarding Egi Glamours, patronizingly telling them that their issues don't matter while yours do.

[LaylaTsarra]

I mean, you were literally belittling people in the same boat as you, only regarding Egi Glamours, patronizingly telling them that their issues don't matter while yours do.

Sorry but trying to equate egi glamours with what is happening to Viera and Horthgar with respect to racial additions is a weak parallel in my view and deserves to be called out for what it is. And there is certainly no reason to call people selfish for having a different point of view than theirs.

[spf1200]

Sorry but trying to equate egi glamours with what is happening to Viera and Horthgar with respect to racial additions is a weak parallel in my view and deserves to be called out for what it is. And there is certainly no reason to call people selfish for having a different point of view than theirs.

Why are races more important than Egis? In theory Egis effect everyone since everyone can use them while races only effect a smallish part of the community.

Either way this has gotten way off topic

[SaberMaxwell]

I find it interesting that, when I responded specifically to your generalized examples of people claiming disagreement to be "you're entitled!", You open with two paragraphs about forum etiquette. I don't believe I commented on forum etiquette itself other than to say that it's a meta discussion that has no bearing on the topic. Honestly and ironically, attempting to change the English speaking forums' culture of spray and pray threads would probably be easier if someone made a mega thread specifically discussing forum etiquette rather than bringing it up every time a new thread about x has been posted. But hilariously to even that, my meta-meta complaint about this would be solved by doing the exact same thing, so the cycle continues.

Your response only becomes relevant to what I actually posted halfway through paragraph 2, and I immediately have to answer by saying that I had already stated "new" doesn't need to mean new to the forums or to the game, it could mean mean "new to the discussion." I even said "the reader directed here from a google search could be new."

You don't need to find every example in the thread either. I'm criticizing how your examples are so poorly chosen that they look like an attempt to build and break a straw man. If you only have time or room for so many examples, pick good ones or you'll just make the conversation muddier than it already was.

[Kaurhz]

Brevity.

Yes, I did, because the need for yet another thread is completely unnecessary, and several small threads won't get the same level of attraction as a single large thread, as was already highlighted. This thread in a couple of days will die when the hype of 5.5 has set in. Then they will release a new hairstyle later on; another thread will be made, that will also result in the same, with an even larger amount of derailing from both myself and other people who get tired of the same complaint requiring the umpteenth thread.

Yes and being new to the discussion does not require an additional thread, hence why the search function exists and hence why it was highlighted, so those new to the discussion or those that want to comment on a topic aren't required to make a duplicate thread to do so. Necro a thread, it's ok, get the thread big, and it will get the attention of the people who are most inclined to make the change. so my original comment still stands, use the search function, will you?

When multiple threads are created all subsequent threads will only get further derailed.

Yes, and it still requires me to scour the entire thread. Besides, if you took the liberty of reading the original post which resulted in this entire chain, you'd notice the person was trying to create the arbitrary narrative that people were creating the "you're entitled" aura, despite the fact this has scarcely been stated or even implied. So the original strawman began there with the person trying to develop a false narrative from the people having a differing opinion, stating a fact, or otherwise disagreeing with the state of necessity of the thread as having a "you're entitled!" aura, and then subsequently going on to attempt to dismiss their further involvement in the thread. So in reality the quality of the examples isn't really relevant, because the original post where the chain of replies came from was developed on a bad pretense in the first place where they were construing the entirety of the comments not in support as being "You're entitled".

[LunaJoy]

Imagine being told that Viera would receive new, unique hairstyles and not getting anything.

When were we promised this? Not trolling, btw, just curious as I don’t remember it