Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
You are still grasping at straws. You continually claim he failed and broke a promise to protect it. However, it was still just contingent on them going outside of the Waking Sands you're also contributing his friends making him leave during said fighting was him breaking said oath.

You do not know how exactly he handled that situation, and as you said it was not shown. The only dialogue after was him mourning the loss of his friends when they held the line so he could escape. You don't know how much he had fought and how much of it had been a losing battle.

One thing we can infer from everything that happened during the Waking Sands is they were ALL taken by surprise they all fought and they LOST. Noraxia died a meaningless death and while he may blame himself he wouldn't be blaming himself just for the death of one he would do it for all the life lost that day and then determine to make himself stronger in which he did.

(BTW don't take this as me being angry or anything with you it is just a discussion and I keep trying to figure out how to put in something about Thancred being Lahabreated =P)

Edut: just to be clearer I'm saying you're grasping at straws for a reason that he needs to have comeuppance or karma for something that happened beyond his control.
I didn't write the rules on karma man, and I didn't ever say that I think he should pay a comeuppance. When you break an oath, it's bad karma. That's all.

The vagueness of the scene is pretty much what allows them to write him back into the story at all. I don't think we'll ever have the details. I don't mind being disagreed with, but I'm not grasping at straws at all. You've just added a layer to the cake of what I'm saying that I didn't bake.

But I'm totally game to bake some Lahabread. Since Thanbread was sitting by the door with his hands all Mr. Burnsesque, mayhaps it was Lahabread planning the raid. While Thanbread was saying sweet nothings to us.