Viera and Hrothgar Megathread

**Akimori** · 04-12-2021 11:01 AM

We know that our fav bunny girls and lion dads are always under scrutiny by the Viera and Hrothgar playerbase...and for good reason. No new hairs since release date. Viera were even promised that they would have exclusive hairstyles added on for them later in Shadowbringers...and here we are...With patch 5.5, Death unto Dawn releasing this Tuesday, the two racial playerbases have not heard a peep from yoshi and his team about the disparities that is caused by the lack of customization support Hrothgar and Viera receive.

My main complains are

1. Hrothgars are the only race in the game that have to pay *actual* money to change their hairstyles because, for some genius reason, their hairstyles are tied to their faces. Hrothgar, on release date, started out with 8 racial unique hairstyles, but as I've stated before, their hairstyles are tied to their faces (theres not even a lore reason on why this is and some of the hrothgar NPCs have hairstyles that belong to different faces!). So, 8 hairstyles, 4 faces, meaning we really only get the choice between TWO hairstyles. Which, quoting a statement during the live letter before ShB release

"Hrothgar will have a robust customization" (its obviously summarized). W0w...Much robust creation :P

2. Viera, during an interview with yoshi, were stated to have unique racial hairstyles for them that will be added after ShB release. Now, after ShB release could be anywhere between just minutes after ShB opened up to literal years. However, they are kept in the dark about what this means and with ShB reaching the end of its life cycle to usher in Endwalkers in the Fall, no further comment has been made about Viera hairstyles either. I have both a viera and hrothgar character that both remain up to date on content and I'd love to actually get some REAL customization support for them

3. I can understand the team not wanting to go back and fit the older *FREE* headgear to the hrothgar and viera simply because of development costs and time taken, but this should NOT be the case for the mogstation items. I wouldn't cause this much of a stink about it if they allowed me to purchase specific pieces from the mogstation because I really only buy a lot of the outfits for their shoes, but they force me to buy the ENTIRE outfit...hat included! Thats $12 ~ $18 I spent on this whole outfit and I cant even wear the hats that comes with with ghdsbalfghidkjsakfbhdskjafdsa. Honestly, mog station headgear SHOULD be a priority since...y'know...we're spending actual money on it!

Now, I remember yoshi stating that megathreads get looked at more often than smaller, but more numerous threads on the same topics as players have stated that its becoming annoying to just see these smaller threads on an almost weekly basis.

So, lets put our worries, complaints, grievances here and for our beloved bunny moms and lion dads in this thread.

Some other threads on similar subjects graciously given to me by Sturmchurro!

Originally Posted by SturmChurro

unrelated: THis is one of my kids and he brings me great joy

**LisSquid** · 04-12-2021 11:07 AM

Thank you so much for this.

As I said in the male Viera thread, at this point I feel like the time and cost it would take to sort out Hrothgar issues would be almost equivalent to making a new race. I would be alright if they spent the time to reconfigure Hrothgar, even if I had to wait for more Viera hair, as their issues do feel a lot more pressing.

That being said, I do want more transparency on why they gone an entire expansion without keeping up their end of the bargain with Viera. We don't get hats of modern aesthetics, but in exchange we get unique hair. Alright.. where are they? We've had live letters and a new expansion announcement without so much as a word. My good faith is running thin.

**Vahlnir** · 04-12-2021 11:11 AM

I, too, would like to see these things addressed. They should not be in the same state now as they were when Shadowbringers launched.

**Akimori** · 04-12-2021 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by LisSquid

Thank you so much for this.

As I said in the male Viera thread, at this point I feel like the time and cost it would take to sort out Hrothgar issues would be almost equivalent to making a new race. I would be alright if they spent the time to reconfigure Hrothgar, even if I had to wait for more Viera hair, as their issues do feel a lot more pressing.

That being said, I do want more transparency on why they gone an entire expansion without keeping up their end of the bargain with Viera. We don't get hats of modern aesthetics, but in exchange we get unique hair. Alright.. where are they? We've had live letters and a new expansion announcement without so much as a word. My good faith is running thin.

I agree there. I was a bit disappointed that a lot of the questions involving the races were more geared towards Viera and not hrothgar, but I can only assume that both are included in the mix. Now, that being said, It is incredibly frustrating that I can't customize my Viera the way I'd want to customize her:

^My beautiful Queen. My patience is practically running on fumes at this point as we are the only two races that pay the same amount of money/month, but get less content. For anyone reading this and has something to say, I will say this:

Customization is considered content. Since we have limited customization options, we by default have access to Less content!

**SturmChurro** · 04-12-2021 11:28 AM

**Akimori** · 04-12-2021 11:32 AM

thank you! I'll add these to my OP as Im hoping to turn this into the headgear/hairstyle for Viera and hrothgar megathread!

**MilkieTea** · 04-12-2021 11:50 AM

I'm all for this!

Not gonna lie, if SE implements more exclusive viera hair, and the ability for hroths to change their hair without having to buy a fantasia, that'd probably alleviate like 75% of the average user complaints. (That's obviously not a real figure, I'm not a mathematician.)

**ReynTime** · 04-12-2021 02:03 PM

Two things from me.

1. Ronso don't walk around hunched like that. If Hrothgar are based on Ronso...Why? Its the ugliest walking animation in the game and I've had a lot of people tell me that being the main turnoff from fantasia'ing into them since they came out.

2. If half a dozen players (actually, pretty sure its less than that) managed to 'fix' the headgear issue with limited spare time, how the hell is it so super duper taxing impossible for a paid professional 3d modeling team?

**Tyssyn** · 04-12-2021 02:36 PM

I made a viera as soon as we could, although I switch back and for between viera and miqo'te. Usually I go back to miqo'te because I'm frustrated by the lack of any new hairstyles at all for viera. I was more than willing to be patient but it's been almost 2 years now without one word on anything to do with viera or hrothgar and that's just wrong on too many levels. Give us some information at the very least!

**lezard21** · 04-12-2021 03:12 PM

The Hrothgar walk animation is what I imagine how juiced bodybuilders walk like after they go to the bathroom and there's no one around to help them wipe.

Please address this abomination.

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