I bought a house for my FC, but housing Savage was a nightmare!

[MrPresident]

Will be even worse when Ishgard opens up. People are buying up all the empty plots at the moment already so they can instantly relocate to Ishgard and price gouge those plots.

[Tommara]

The fact is, it will be physically impossible for house ward supply to meet player demand and that is the only way that is pro over con in dealing private house trade

Nah, instanced housing has existed since Anarchy Online (2001, when the game released. Don't remember when housing was released, but not long after).

Even Asheron's Call (1999) non-instanced housing was better than FF14, since it was scattered around the world. You actually had to travel around to find them. If you found an empty house, and had the currency to buy it, was yours.

Star Wars Galaxies (2003) non-instanced housing, pretty much available to all, if you could find a Master Architect (which I was, thanks to help from my Everquest guild).

Everquest2 (2004) is the gold standard for housing in my book, although the current owners of the franchise seriously suck. All of it instanced (which is a no-brainer it pretty much has to be if demand far outstrips supply), two room apartments given to newbs for free, and guild halls that are so much more useful (such as being able to dump crafting resources into nearly infinite storage capacity that people can use to craft while in the guild hall without having to put crafting mats into their inventory).

[Sotaris]

The original idea is that you are only suppose to check it every once in a while.

But in reality this means you will never land a house. It isn't reasonable to think people will check 5 minute a day "oh darn it, I didnt get a house today either!"

make houses FC only while kicking all the personal houses out.

No. Imagine the backlash.

Its never to late, look at TP and tell me that it missed the too late deadline to be safe.

That's a non arguement. What is next, water is wet?

Friend of mine transferred to my server and found a house in Shirogane within 10 minutes. Was on Spriggan.
And every other area has like a dozen houses available. I guess I'm on a good server.

Well it's spriggan, a pretty empty and new server. I'm not at all surprised. Twintania had the same before it was more populated.

Will be even worse when Ishgard opens up. People are buying up all the empty plots at the moment already so they can instantly relocate to Ishgard and price gouge those plots.

And open up 100s of plots in the process. You will get timer yes but that's not our fault.

[Drkdays]

With FC housing, other members can also attempt to secure a house too, right? If no one helped you then maybe you were too worked up over getting a home. Not to belittle your efforts, but don't play this game for others. You'll never last that way.

[Puremallace]

Honestly I never understood the housing thing. I guess people try to apply real world principles to an MMO with their values but it does not work in practice. The history that WoW or other MMO's show is when you make housing super easy and convenient the rest of the MMO empties out and people think it has died as people do not gather. They would have to remove so much from housing and make it so inconvenient to prevent this that people would complain that housing was now pointless and boring.

No MMO developer has ever really solved this and the ones that thought they did ended up regretting the decision to cave to the playerbase. If there is one thing that could derail the FF14 hype train it would be this scenario.

[Jojoya]

Honestly I never understood the housing thing. I guess people try to apply real world principles to an MMO with their values but it does not work in practice. The history that WoW or other MMO's show is when you make housing super easy and convenient the rest of the MMO empties out and people think it has died as people do not gather. They would have to remove so much from housing and make it so inconvenient to prevent this that people would complain that housing was now pointless and boring.

No MMO developer has ever really solved this and the ones that thought they did ended up regretting the decision to cave to the playerbase. If there is one thing that could derail the FF14 hype train it would be this scenario.

Not sure why you mention WoW. WoW has never had housing. They only had Garrisons, which were not housing. They were a personal instanced quest hub in an expansion that offered nothing to do at end game except queue for dungeons and raids.

Housing is not to blame for empty worlds. Lack of content in those worlds is to blame. Fortunately that's not a problem in this game, where there is a lot of content to do out in the world for those who enjoy that content.

[ItMe]

But in reality this means you will never land a house. It isn't reasonable to think people will check 5 minute a day "oh darn it, I didnt get a house today either!"

No, this does work.
This is how everyone I know got their house (myself included).
It may be slower but it's FAR less stress and doesn't impact your health.

[LianaThorne]

No, this does work.
This is how everyone I know got their house (myself included).
It may be slower but it's FAR less stress and doesn't impact your health.

Seconded. That's how my boyfriend and I got our personals. I've said this further back already but there are prime hours for plots to pop. Save yourself a day of camping and just go during prime hours. You can use the demolition timer and cost of the placard to figure out how long a plot has been up for.

[ForteNightshade]

No, this does work.
This is how everyone I know got their house (myself included).
It may be slower but it's FAR less stress and doesn't impact your health.

It's also entirely down to luck. While it may have worked for say, Lianna's boyfriend. Others who stepped away, ultimately came back to find out the only house available on their server gone. Now they get to wait an undisclosed amount of time to get chance at another plot. Often times what prompts the absurd lengths people will go is the disappointment of loss to begin with. Someone who didn't luck out after stepping away, will be far more incentivized to rearrange their entire schedule simply to avoid being disappointed again.

At the end of the day, Yoshida and the dev team need to do better. And should be criticised for an objectively terrible system. When other MMOs earning significantly less than FFXIV does manage to implement a better housing system, there isn't an excuse. Either it's the sunk cost fallacy, where instead of scrapping a system that didn't work, they continuously poured money trying to fix it and now don't want to invest any more into it, or sheer stubbornness in trying to maintain a neighborhood feel at the cost of upsetting thousands more unlucky enough to get scoop up a house the second they're available. No matter who you blame (SE and/or the dev team), it's a terrible system.

[ItMe]

It's also entirely down to luck. While it may have worked for say, Lianna's boyfriend. Others who stepped away, ultimately came back to find out the only house available on their server gone. Now they get to wait an undisclosed amount of time to get chance at another plot.

You say this like it doesn't happen for placard spammers too.
The only difference being the patience method doesn't eat an 8 hour block before you fail.