To those that say FF14 is not a big dog in MMO's

[VelKallor]

We do have FFlogs and also the Japanese Datacenter have public blacklist where they put the bad people on.
We also have DPS meters for a very long time.

Main reason why SE are so against dps meters.

Public blacklists, huh?

Thank you for making my point for me.

[ZedxKayn]

Main reason why SE are so against dps meters.

Public blacklists, huh?

Thank you for making my point for me.

If anything it shows that having DPS meters won't worsen things.
We don't have DPS meters but there are still public blacklists.

[Penthea]

If anything it shows that having DPS meters won't worsen things.
We don't have DPS meters but there are still public blacklists.

That's more of a cultural thing though. Direct confrontation tends to be frowned upon in Japan so instead people there spread word to one another to not play with certain people. To my knowledge this is unique to the JP community in this game.

EDIT: and by that I mean I haven't heard of it happening in EU and NA communities. Not that it only happens in FFXIV.

[Axxion]

Main reason why SE are so against dps meters.

Public blacklists, huh?

Thank you for making my point for me.

but arent you on a JP server as well? That could happen to you with or with out parsing. Truth be told it will depend on your behavior.

[Theodric]

That's more of a cultural thing though. Direct confrontation tends to be frowned upon in Japan so instead people there spread word to one another to not play with certain people. To my knowledge this is unique to the JP community in this game.

EDIT: and by that I mean I haven't heard of it happening in EU and NA communities. Not that it only happens in FFXIV.

I suppose the EU and NA equivalent happened to be more apparent a few years back. When individual servers had a stronger sense of community and more direct engagement between players, it was a lot easier to build up either a positive or negative reputation. It still is, technically, but it's much harder to avoid being just another face in the crowd compared to back then.

[Penthea]

I suppose the EU and NA equivalent happened to be more apparent a few years back. When individual servers had a stronger sense of community and more direct engagement between players, it was a lot easier to build up either a positive or negative reputation. It still is, technically, but it's much harder to avoid being just another face in the crowd compared to back then.

Yea WoW was like that once upon a time. You could get a bad reputation and find yourself with no one to play with if you were unpleasant often enough that people would warn others about you. People kicked players who gave their guild a bad name. But when the DF tool came into the game and dungeon groups became cross server that went out the window. It seems this sort of thing persists among Japanese communities whether there is a DF tool or not.

[Dzian]

Yea WoW was like once upon a time. You could get a bad reputation and find yourself with no one to play with if you were unpleasant often enough that people would warn others about you. People kicked players who gave their guild a bad name. But when the DF tool came into the game and dungeon groups became cross server that went out the window. It seems this sort of thing persists among Japanese communities whether there is a DF tool or not.

That exists in lots of games, even today.
And to be honest I don't really see it as a bad thing. If you act like a disrespectful douche and noone wants to play with you that's your own fault.

Still exists on the NA side here. If you join a party finder and you're known to be a time waster you will get kicked.

If anything what the duty finder does is give people free reign to be douche bags and idiots..because theres no accountability for it.

But its not just games like this, It's all sorts. I've seen entire lobbies just up and leave when one or two notorious idiots join in many games. Seige, ghost recon, cod, nfs.

It's one of the big problems on the na side. Selfishness and a Lack of respect for fellow players..Which is why many people join party finder groups they clearly aren't prepared for and expect to be carried. And then call it toxic or elitism when they get kicked...

If they had any respect for there fellow players they wouldn't have joined that party and wasted everyone's time in the first place.. so if they get kicked and find no one wants to play with them it's there own fault.

[Y2K21]

Main reason why SE are so against dps meters.

Public blacklists, huh?

Thank you for making my point for me.

Dude, RP communities have had blacklists for years regardless of the game -- its all behavior dependent at the end. You can always improve your DPS, but behavior is a lot harder to do.

[Rinhi]

That's brutal. tbh i thought the na/eu would have one of those.

entitled na players would probably claim harassment and dogpile on the creators of said blacklist to get them vilified everywhere tbh

[MonsutaMan]

FFXIV had a great run. I don't think every mmo needs to be elite status.

I like DCUO, and that mmo is at the bottom of the barrel; like D, C-list (See what I did there? Yeah that wasn't funny.......)

Most of the mmo I play are FAR lower tier than XIV, which is actually higher tier. XIV is a successful sub based mmo; there are not many of those. Let alone, one that has been running for over a decade with millions of players.

I also agree with those saying your reputation should follow you. Thus, people may not want to play with a elitist, douche, jerk, etc. I am The Monsuta Man on WoW, XI, Kritika, DCUO, ESO, Fallout, Skyrim.......I aint hiding.......This is pretty much the character I create in every game, or mmo.
(The real reason.......... I am too lazy to think up names and new ideas. So, I create the same elf, same name, same tuxedo/suit in every game. But lets just act like I am some valiant guy? Cool....)