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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    So... your friends are functioning enough to have lewd conversations and simultaneously not aware enough of the fact that people lie? Actions have consequences. Damage is done even if you don't realise you are being lied too. If your friends are of an age where they can have such conversations and desires. You should know the universal rule of the internet and life. People lie. It's easy to lie online, everyone knows this. If they have not learned it now they should, you cannot know a person onlines age for certain so you best not engage in sexual conduct with them. For yourself not being duped and for the sake of a young person not being exposed to content that they are not meant to be.

    Age absolutely should be a factor, I was a "mature" child in the sense I could hold conversation well with older people. I still was not ready for a 26yo man to send me a full frontal nude of himself when I was 14. He was more concerned with his own wants, much like the ERP defenders. Total apathy towards the kids they could be sexting with because they want to get off. A child can be as "mature" as you want, they literally have not mentally developed enough to properly cope with these situations properly. Your friends are adults, they have the same responsibility as any other sexually active adult. If they have not met the person and know their age for sure. Don't go anywhere near sexual conversations. Really not hard and it's not hard to understand even if they cannot get the social ques or catch a lie. THAT fact is something they should have no problem understanding if they are functioning enough to have these convos.
    Trust me I do not get the general idea of ERP, or the allure behind sexual conversations. I value the personal interaction not a faceless one. Though we cannot deny that in this digital age that online relationships will become even more common. Also even though I may not understand the allure I am not going to say that the desire for such a connection may not be a desire some seek.

    Thing is age in itself does not determine the maturity of ability to understand human nature and behavior in itself. For the most part those who may have lower emotional intelligence generally are more naïve and trustworthy when it comes to people because they base many of their interactions with others with ones they have around them often. Normally these are people that have their best interest in mind so they feel everyone around them has said interests in mind.

    You are right that is not always the case and they are often gullible almost akin to a child. So in practice some may be an adult in body but in terms of mind they may still be a gullible teenager in the emotional sense. That is why I have an issue age. Since generally the law to a degree does take other factors into account but for the most part all that is seen is just the age.

    Though my stance regarding placing blame on minors also has to serve as a deterrent for those that are willing to weaponize their age against others. Sure it may not be common, but in my personal view one false allegation is one too many and we should do everything to protect those who are falsely accused by making false allegations bare more of a negative consequence for those that made them.

    Sure this is a victim blame stance to a degree sadly as many have said people lie, and some are vile and age has no barring on that. The law should reflect that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirhd View Post
    Oh, I know exactly what struggles they and the parents/close family of significantly autistic people go through... given they lived with us for a while. Not gonna go into all if it since it's not the internets' business, but having to keep someone from hurting themselves or others because they're overstimulated and want to communicate something badly but can't, having to deal with random strangers berating you/the autistic person because they're "behaving badly" (overstimulated again) when you're outside and just trying to get grocery shopping done... Listening to your severely depressed sibling crying because they think it's their fault, they don't know how to get the proper help the autistic person needs (past. things are much better these days), etc.... Yeah, kiddo, I definitely know what it's like. Gonna stop there before I get more heated.



    All of this. Sorry you had to deal with the absolute trash of the internet.
    Get heated my point remains you will never understand what goes on through the head of someone on the spectrum. You can understand on the outside but you will never understand what it is like unless you have lived through it yourself.

    That is what I am getting at you say it is an excuse, but the reality it is not. It is a spectrum disorder they have degrees not just high functioning and low functioning. My stance has a lot to deal with those who fall in the middle of both extremes and they can often find themselves in weird spots cause of how they are.

    Do not get me wrong in terms of a video game I do not have much sympathy since it has a age rating and for the most part should be a sign. Though my stance has more to do with general online interactions that do not have an easy metric like a video game.

    Sorry if I get heated, but my parents did the same thing when I found myself nearly facing legal trouble due to the comic store issue. Sure they me well to try and understanding, and I am not going to say it is easy to deal with but just because you may witness what is going and have to live through it. Still does not amount to understanding.

    Sadly using the age only mindset runs the risk of letting people fall through the cracks, I have seen what happens to those people and it hurts and is painful. Most people say the same they they should have known better or had their caregiver watch them better. In which case does not fly for children, though for people that may have the mindset in certain degrees as a child when it comes to social interactions they told tough luck should have known better. If mentality is the primary reason age itself should not matter, and we should look at all factors.

    I do not mean to come off as harsh, but please understand living in this world where people only see two sides of the and refuse to see how wide a gambit it really is. It annoys me greatly personally cause in terms of my brother he is not low functioning but I also would not what many would call high functioning. It is rough really went through the ringer with him, a girl lied about her age, and they have sexual relations and her mom found out. Sadly my brother was found guilty cause he did the deed. Sadly he was locked up, and it hurts cause as my older brother he always protected me and I was unable to do anything for him while everyone treated him like a monster over what was largely a misunderstanding.

    I do not know how I would handle his case differently cause he did do the action, but I also do not think if he knew her age it would have turned out this way cause that is what lead to the fallout he found out her age after many months of dating and the mom got involved and he was truly sorry. Though the law did not matter cause the age, even though it was confirmed that he had the mentality of a teenager when it came to emotional and social intelligence. Though he still knew what he did was wrong, given then age difference. It was a weird time for us.

    So even I do not know how one may feel going through this either, but I do understand enough to know that good people fall under the cracks when we just look at age. It is rough for me cause I tend to also see the world in a very binary way, and for the most part unless I am personally invested I am not very logically contestant.

    Sure it may be an excuse to you, but for me it is something I have lived through. Sure those around me may have poor judgement but I have also seen the horrors that so called minors are capable of. As I mentioned being a vile person is possible despite the age and our laws when it comes to sexual cases should reflect this.

    Sorry English is also not my native tongue.
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