[dev1301] Private Player Residences Discussion

[Ilethius]

You can't..... craft in there? w-why??

I think it might be because of botting? Just think a private room where no one else can see you or interact, you could bot in there all day and SE would never know.

[Antanias]

I think it might be because of botting? Just think a private room where no one else can see you or interact, you could bot in there all day and SE would never know.

The peeping toms could still see you. Better plug up any holes in the wall when you first arrive xD

[Quesse]

I think it might be because of botting? Just think a private room where no one else can see you or interact, you could bot in there all day and SE would never know.

This is a bit silly.

Just because you're in your residence, SE won't know if you're turboing the enter button? Probably not true.

-- What you actually mean to say is that regular players can't easily attempt to determine if someone is bot-crafting (as if they ever have been able to with accuracy.)
-- SE has access to each person's input stream from their client. They don't need to see someone to know what they are doing. They will just see the input stream matches a bot-like pattern and ban. This is especially true for something like all the mass-bans that used to happen periodically in FFXI.
-- How do you reason that you're somehow would be 'safe' in your residence from SE's monitoring in any way? FFXIV residences do not resemble a real-life house where you can go inside and pull the shades down. Just the opposite. Everything you do is super transparent. An example: one of the computer networks I manage, I can pull up anyone's computer screen and see what they are doing at any time - without them even knowing. I just click a button and there is their screen. Sure SE employees have hooks into just about every view of their game with complex reporting metrics and the like.

I'm sort of surprised that more than a couple people suggested that no crafting was allowed in residences because you could get away with botting. You realize that, for instance, unless you are browsing the internet on an SSL encrypted site (and even then its not completely secure) that your service provider (including cell phone provider) is logging every site you are going to and every keypress you are making on the internet? They keep this data for months and years!

Just because no in-game players can 'see' you doesn't mean SE can't. They can. Privacy is dead - especially in MMORPGs, where it was never there to begin with.

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Regarding the update... let me get this straight, the only use for residences is to

1) view cutscenes

2) amass a resting bonus

Seems like a waste of an update.

[tekka]

This is a bit silly.
An example: one of the computer networks I manage, I can pull up anyone's computer screen and see what they are doing at any time - without them even knowing. I just click a button and there is their screen.

Guess your company doesn't have any privacy policies >.>