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[Melichoir]

Oh yeah, we have been. Was just saying that he didn't get the reaction he was expecting at the time.

Well to be fair the healer situation was a complicated mess. They were clearly not balanced at times. Im curious with this new healer how the other 3 will be handled in the next xpac. But thats a whole other topic.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Well to be fair the healer situation was a complicated mess. They were clearly not balanced at times. Im curious with this new healer how the other 3 will be handled in the next xpac. But thats a whole other topic.

If you saw the Showcase, so far the 1st thing we know is that the 4 healers are gonna be classified as a "Pure Healer and a "Shield Healer"
Wht and Ast will now be Pure Healers (Amusingly They play the same, only diff is the Draw system)
SCH and SGE(?) will be Shield Healers.

If Scholar is anything to go on, a Shield Healer will Prioritize Mitigation and probly have more DPS options. (I know, ShB they took away alot of DPS, but that might change now)

[Melichoir]

If you saw the Showcase, so far the 1st thing we know is that the 4 healers are gonna be classified as a "Pure Healer and a "Shield Healer"
Wht and Ast will now be Pure Healers (Amusingly They play the same, only diff is the Draw system)
SCH and SGE(?) will be Shield Healers.

If Scholar is anything to go on, a Shield Healer will Prioritize Mitigation and probly have more DPS options. (I know, ShB they took away alot of DPS, but that might change now)

Oh yeah, forgot they mentioned that. But Im still curious about the skill layout. If they go with DPS Orientated vs Mitigation, arent theyre gonna run into the issue in previous xpacs where SCH was the defacto choice for savage cause its damage output was pretty high. Though maybe they could die damage to mitigation (as in if shield pops, it deals damage, otherwise its just flat mitigation).

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Oh yeah, forgot they mentioned that. But Im still curious about the skill layout. If they go with DPS Orientated vs Mitigation, arent theyre gonna run into the issue in previous xpacs where SCH was the defacto choice for savage cause its damage output was pretty high. Though maybe they could die damage to mitigation (as in if shield pops, it deals damage, otherwise its just flat mitigation).

(I know we are going off topic, but Im gonna be the lazy one and NOT make or find a separate Thread. Call the police, Ill fite 'dem :P )

I think he also said that the Optimal choice is gonna be to Balance a Shield Healer with a Pure Healer. I dont know if that means they are gonna do some balancing or set things up to where Having 2 Shield healers; who lets assume that have more DPS options then Pure Healers....will be a detriment because by taking out a Pure Healer you run a risk of not surviving some encounters and challenges. Like you can only Mitigate so much damage, now you need REAL heals.
Id like it if they could find a way to do that, because there will always be a meta, but I think every Job should be viable in any composition. Plus it would just be weak if Scholar and Sage become mandatory and everyone sleeps on WHT and Now Ast.

[ItMe]

(I know we are going off topic, but Im gonna be the lazy one and NOT make or find a separate Thread. Call the police, Ill fite 'dem :P )

I think he also said that the Optimal choice is gonna be to Balance a Shield Healer with a Pure Healer.

Part of me hopes they'll go all the way with the idea and in trials & raids one of the healer slots will be specific to pure healers and one will be for shield healers.
Split the role.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Part of me hopes they'll go all the way with the idea and in trials & raids one of the healer slots will be specific to pure healers and one will be for shield healers.
Split the role.

They'll never do that, any more than they'd split the DPS slots between melee, ranged, and caster (or, hell, split any slot to avoid duplicate jobs). It would just slow down the queue if there were too many of one slot.

[ItMe]

They'll never do that, any more than they'd split the DPS slots between melee, ranged, and caster (or, hell, split any slot to avoid duplicate jobs). It would just slow down the queue if there were too many of one slot.

Yeah...
Even if there were 5 pure healers and 5 shield healers... I don't expect it to happen.
And it would come with many other problems, but... part of me would still love to see it.
Like, any combo of DPS is going to be more effective in some fights, but less so in others. But with this healer rework... if they're planning on balancing content around parties having a specific comp (1 pure & 1 shield) I feel there should be a structure in game asserting that comp.
Ah well, we'll have to see what happens. I don't imagine that comp will be a necessity (or anything close) but we'll have to see how it all shakes out in 6.0.

[RyuDragnier]

Oh yeah, forgot they mentioned that. But Im still curious about the skill layout. If they go with DPS Orientated vs Mitigation, arent theyre gonna run into the issue in previous xpacs where SCH was the defacto choice for savage cause its damage output was pretty high. Though maybe they could die damage to mitigation (as in if shield pops, it deals damage, otherwise its just flat mitigation).

Odds are Sage will be balanced in relation to SCH alone, so either one will be viable in the mitigation department for shield healers. That's a separate situation from the importance on whether or not Viera (and Hrothgar) can visibly wear the Sage AF helm.