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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Here's why the "Just don't do it" mindset doesn't work.

    Fewer players in the roulettes results in higher queue times. Do you really want the return of 30 minute queues for dps players?

    Veteran players need an incentive to queue for things that might not benefit them. IMHO being synced to content where you go from 24 buttons to 2 is more of a disincentive to queue for certain content.
    I don't usually see 30-minute DPS queues with the system as is right now, so this particular argument doesn't make sense.

    And as we've established, SE has other ways to incentivize running old contents.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    I don't usually see 30-minute DPS queues with the system as is right now, so this particular argument doesn't make sense.

    And as we've established, SE has other ways to incentivize running old contents.
    They used to exist. That's the point. And will come back if people stop queuing into the roulettes.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Aelda Schuvorther
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Concern trolling about possible DPS queue times.
    Not my responsibility as someone who mains tanks and healers to make sure DPS queue times are short. I am not 2nd class citizen to DPS.

    Allowing me to use my full level 80 skill set in Satasha is not going to make me queue for DR as a tank or healer. The current awards don't even make want to go into DR leveling, DR Trials, and DR 50/60/70 as a capped player.

    The alternatives out there are better for EXP/hour or rewards.

    SE is going to need to give the better long-term incentives those other DRs as a capped tank and healer main. Give me a reason to go into DR Trials where I spend more time in one Titania fight than a whole Expert Dungeon. Give me a reason to go into DR leveling where I end up out damaging the two DPS as a healer in Shisui of the Violet Tides. Give me a reason to go into 50/60/70 DR where it’s Keeper of the Lake for the 100th time and it’s more MP efficient for me to not raise the same DPS who keep dying to mechanics and to just keep casting damage spells.

    Until better long-term incentives are provided, I will keep on doing DR Expert and alternative activities for things I need. That includes me using squads for low level dungeons to add seals to Wonderous tales… which a group of Rank 5 offensive squad members (1 MRD, 2 DPS… preferred rouge, archer, or arcanist), is faster than with real people.
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