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    As one of the quests will take us to the origin of Ifrit, maybe that would make thematically a more likely guess as the next unreal.

    ... I'd still rather see odin though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    As one of the quests will take us to the origin of Ifrit, maybe that would make thematically a more likely guess as the next unreal.

    ... I'd still rather see odin though.
    I still think Ifrit's origins will probably end up being a Salamander auspice.
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    As far as the "lunar" primals go, I feel like they could be considered the final send-off for the established primals in the story as now that a cure for tempering exists, the prospect of preventing re-summonings entirely is realistic as the tempered are generally the ones who've been perpetuating their existence. That said, I don't think I'd mind having Lunar Ifrit as the final boss for Pagl'than.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I still think Ifrit's origins will probably end up being a Salamander auspice.
    One of the short stories they released for Shadowbringers suggests that Ifrit may have actually originated as a creation of the Ancients and likely some of the other primals as well, considering that there's a Bismark on both the Source and the First which implies whatever being originally bore the name may have existed pre-Sundering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    One of the short stories they released for Shadowbringers suggests that Ifrit may have actually originated as a creation of the Ancients and likely some of the other primals as well, considering that there's a Bismark on both the Source and the First which implies whatever being originally bore the name may have existed pre-Sundering.
    I meant the Amalj'aa version of Ifrit. Ifrita was an original concept, but their version of Ifrit is born of their own conceived notions on how Ifrit looked. Meaning either their ancestors saw a firey lizard type transformed auspice, or the idea was planted into their heads.

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    A Sand Fox auspice exists as a part of the Unreal trials and the Faux Hollows minigame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I still think Ifrit's origins will probably end up being a Salamander auspice.
    One of the Tales from the Shadows short stories (Ere Our Curtain Falls) suggests that Ifrit's origins tie back to Ifrita, a concept created by Lahabrea pre-Sundering that Azem used to collect and dissipate gathering fire aether so as to prevent a volcanic eruption.

    As the auspices trace their origins back to the Chinese Zodiac, a salamander auspice seems... unlikely. These all come up during Heavensturn, but for those who don't know the Chinese Zodiac signs are:
    • Rat
    • Ox
    • Tiger
    • Rabbit
    • Dragon
    • Snake
    • Horse
    • Sheep
    • Monkey
    • Rooster
    • Dog
    • Pig
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    One of the Tales from the Shadows short stories (Ere Our Curtain Falls) suggests that Ifrit's origins tie back to Ifrita, a concept created by Lahabrea pre-Sundering that Azem used to collect and dissipate gathering fire aether so as to prevent a volcanic eruption.

    As the auspices trace their origins back to the Chinese Zodiac, a salamander auspice seems... unlikely. These all come up during Heavensturn, but for those who don't know the Chinese Zodiac signs are:
    • Rat
    • Ox
    • Tiger
    • Rabbit
    • Dragon
    • Snake
    • Horse
    • Sheep
    • Monkey
    • Rooster
    • Dog
    • Pig

    There's a Fat Cat that's an auspice (Senri). A weasel/ferret (Kamaitachi). A red panda (Nue). A fox(Kudagitsune). A Tanuki. An Odder Otter. These don't correspond in any way to the Chinese Zodiac. It's not something strictly adhered to at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    There's a Fat Cat that's an auspice (Senri). A weasel/ferret (Kamaitachi). A red panda (Nue). A fox(Kudagitsune). A Tanuki. An Odder Otter. These don't correspond in any way to the Chinese Zodiac. It's not something strictly adhered to at all.
    Yeah, the only requirement to becoming an auspice is living long enough ("decades beyond" their usual lifespans) to become self-aware and obtain magic powers.

    It's certainly possible for a group of twelve auspices to consciously pattern themselves after the animals of the Far Eastern Zodiac (which we know exists in Hydaelyn, with the Heavensturn events), but that's a different matter entirely.
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