Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
I mean, I could sit here and explain how all the big listers that have all that over-saturation are generally the botters (at least a good chunk,) but I'll pretend for a moment that somehow nothing actually visibly changes.

I would still prefer that, because I'd rather the market crash by a players choice, than a machine. A player has to eventually eat, sleep, go to work and take care of the kids. A machine? 24/7 activity. The fact some players aren't even afraid to admit to it anymore is concern enough (One example being the player admitting to house botting on these forums, another player admitting to me in whisper he bots his crafts so he can go watch tv, and even one that straight told me in chat how his bot works and how it responds to things, such as turning off with enough whispers in case it's a GM to fake being afk.)
Very much what I've put in bold. It is the same for housing. I fought against a lot of people for housing and I never begrudged the people who put a lot of man hours camping for it getting them, because they're putting the effort in with a system that's broken and aren't taken the unfair exploitative easy answer out. It means I always drew a lot of joy when I saw a bot continuously click on a person's pet and somebody else got the house. And joy when I found out that people relocate and set up a retainer with items to sell so the person botting/using an auto clicker spends all their gil.

Undercutting is annoying as heck and it's just gonna happen, but at least it requires effort to be on the ball. Bots just add that much extra unfair edge that it is taking it too far and makes for a bigger problem.

I feel like maybe there ought to be a restriction on how frequently you can update a market price or limit how many times a day you can adjust it. This would address both bots and people who excessively undercut people.